Right to Life

You don't have to be religious to recognize that the right to life supercedes all other rights.

Without the right to life all other rights would be meaningless/pointless.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
You don't have to be religious to recognize that the right to life supercedes all other rights.

Without the right to life all other rights would be meaningless/pointless.

I'll need further explanation.

And sources you can provide that you don't need Religion for a "Right to Life"?

I was going to explain. On furthering the Jews brought worship with them. So when you purport further your siting religion.

The professor I learned that from said it was the greatest contribution ever made in life.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
And please don't reply that you are a "progressive conservative" because there is no such thing and it is a contradiction in terms.

HYG.

Don't need to give any sources lol.

It is just basic, common sense.

Besides, this whole thread premise is just plain stupid, no offense. It amazes me that people are actually trying to legitimately make an argument against the right to life. But then, you support abortion so I guess I understand why you are doing it.

Thing is though, you are not gonna convince any pro-lifers to suddenly switch their position on the issue I guarantee you no matter how many people on this forum agree with you.

I hope that is not your intention here because if it is you'll be sorely disappointed. If all you're doing is trying to get some thumbs up from your fellow so-called "pro-choicers" then yeah, I'm sure you'll succeed at that lol.

Originally posted by Klaw
HYG.

Not clicking on that link.

There is no such thing as a progressive conservative.

Philosophers think you need morals. Else you’ll never get the story of your own life.

There are plenty of people who don't believe in God but do think humans have a right to life. It is not exclusively a religious view but even if it was, so what? Wouldn't change the fact that it is most important of all rights.

Think it was Ronald Reagan who said "I can't help but notice all the people who support abortion have already been born." Paraphrasing of course because don't remember exact quote but it was spot on.

Before some smart ass trolls me it's obvious what his point was: those who are being aborted aren't getting a say in the matter.

"Pro-choice," my ass.

Tell you what, for anyone who agrees with Klaw's argument I guess that means you think we should do away with laws against murder, right? If you're being consistent then yes, you would agree with that.

I mean, if people don't have a right to life then why am I not allowed to walk up to somebody on the street and thrust a blade into their throat or heart killing them? No value in human life, right? So why would that be an issue with anyone?

Can't wait to see the mental gymnastics in response to that gotcha post lol. They'll be awe-inspiring I'm sure lol.

Your rights end at the tip of someone else’s nose. So when you violate that you lose. Including verbal. In case anyone is interested the same Professor 🧑‍🏫 I mentioned said language was the next most important contribution to life.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Tell you what, for anyone who agrees with Klaw's argument I guess that means you think we should do away with laws against murder, right? If you're being consistent then yes, you would agree with that.

I mean, if people don't have a right to life then why am I not allowed to walk up to somebody on the street and thrust a blade into their throat or heart killing them? No value in human life, right? So why would that be an issue with anyone?

Because when an abortion is legal, the embryo/fetus is not a "human life", that's why there's a given timespan of when an abortion is legal and illegal. YW

What you're talking about with your weird scenario is actually murder, which is illegal by our man-made laws. YW

Originally posted by Robtard
Because when an abortion is legal, the embryo/fetus is not a "human life", that's why there's a given timespan of when an abortion is legal and illegal. YW

What you're talking about with your weird scenario is actually murder, which is illegal by our man-made laws. YW

It is a human life AT CONCEPTION. It's not a squirrel or a rabbit or a fish, ffs. It is a human.

You can call it an embryo or fetus all you like but it is still human which is why when a person kills a pregnant woman he is charged with DOUBLE MURDER. People aren't charged with murder for killing animals, only humans.

So you failed rather epically in your argument for abortion.... yet again.

Besides, this thread is not specifically in relation to abortion (though I realize that was klaw's true purpose behind the thread; pro-abortionists are desperate to destroy pro-lifers strongest argument against abortion).

You didn't really answer the question you just deflected as you so often do. Forget about the abortion issue for time being.. We are just talkiing about klaw's argument that in general humans don't have an inherent right to life.

If that is true and you agree with it then why not get rid of laws against murder? Why would it be wrong for me to suddenly murder someone who calls me an ugly name?

Well the medical and science communities disagree with your opinion and this is why abortion is generally legal up to 20-22 weeks. Though Texas did pass its unconstitutional law.

I didn't dodge, I literally answered your question, that murder is illegal due to our man made laws. Not something magical or otherworldly.

What is "weird" is that there are actually people arguing that humans don't have a right to life in general..... that is deeply disturbing, imo.

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Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
What is "weird" is that there are actually people arguing that humans don't have a right to life in general..... that is deeply disturbing, imo.

Where did you get that from what I said? I think people have a right to life, I just accept that it comes from society as a whole and not a magical skyfather.