Originally posted by carver9
What's the train made out of? Also, the strongest krytonian got ktfo by a tractor being rammed on his head... 😂
And Wonder Woman is >>>>>>Hulk by your own admission. So a random bullet > Wonder Woman>>>>>>>>Hulk LMAO
See how this play out?
Originally posted by Delta1938
😆 Wut? I never said it wasn't canon. I gave a canon example. What's the issue?And I know you yet upset and rage in some instances where people disagree with you. Not all the time, but it certainly happens.
I know you moved the goal post here. I said this--
To which you replied--
And I said--
Explain how that's disputing anything being canon or belittling a feat. Am I belittling the feat, in your eyes, because I say it's inferior to what I cited? If that's the case, you're literally accusing me of belittling it because I disagree with you.
But then after I said about knowing what a black hole is, you replied--
So we go from collateral damage to combat feats? Or did you mean something else? All I see here is you moving the goal post.
We have no idea how powerful they portrayed the black hole. Wonder Woman has been owned by less. If you were well aware of the scene, why are you making more out of this black hole than the other? If we are unable to give a hard number on one we certainly can't skip along and place one on the other.
Originally posted by Stoic
We have no idea how powerful they portrayed the black hole. Wonder Woman has been owned by less. If you were well aware of the scene, why are you making more out of this black hole than the other? If we are unable to give a hard number on one we certainly can't skip along and place one on the other.
This really comes down to, "I don't like the feat so it doesn't count." And you didn't address anything else I pointed out or asked. You accuse me of belittling while you do. If you're going this route, once Hulk came back to Earth he couldn't even destroy a mountain while beating on FFF. Sounds like a weak planet to me.
Originally posted by Delta1938
Where'd he say this? 😆
Source:http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=676825&pagenumber=7
Gotcha. Wonder Woman>>>Pre Crisis Superman and Supergirl>>Hulk. As long as we are in agreeance to this, then I'm ok.
100% KMC canon 🙄
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Source:http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=676825&pagenumber=7100% KMC canon 🙄
Yet the fearful one has continued to back down from my Superman vs WW BZ challenge for years. Even tried to change the stipulations because of his feeeearing meeeee(he'll get the reference) and then lied accusing ME of lying about him trying to change it.
Originally posted by carver9
So Delta, if their durability is black hole level, I'm guess we can use Hulk highest durability showing and multiply that by 100 (since WBH is SIGNIFICANTLY more powerful than your standard Hulk), right?
The same WBH who couldn't even destroy a mountain on Earth? Either you except the planet WBH destroyed was weak sauce or you concede your argument against the black hole was bullshit.
Plus you need evidence to back the 100× argument.
Originally posted by carver9
So I'm guessing we are NOT accepting WBH/Hulk highest but we accept random kryptonians highest? Is this what you are saying?
No. Are you not understanding, or just lying? If you don't understand, I'll do my best to dumb it down.
Also it was a half powered Kryptonian too, so.....
And I have only begun.
Originally posted by carver9
So you're saying none of Hulk hgih end fts count, but, the kryptonians he is fighting is black hole level in power? Gotcha. Since you're inconsistent, j guess I'll look through the thread for more level headed people..
That's not what I said at all. So are you lying or just dumb?
hotm Hulk feat is far greater than being in the event horizon of a real black hole (real black hole >= comic black hole).
Think of the force to shatter planet with one punch x 1000.
I did some calculations. The most force one will experience halfway in the event horizon of a small black hole is astronomically less than that punch.
Originally posted by carver9although Ill argue Hulk wins this fight, your logic is wrong.
So Delta, if their durability is black hole level, I'm guess we can use Hulk highest durability showing and multiply that by 100 (since WBH is SIGNIFICANTLY more powerful than your standard Hulk), right?
If a character is more durability than another then that just means that their AVERAGE durability is higher. WBH has a higher durability showing than Hulk anyway.
Yep, quick response from me. Well here we go.
Originally posted by h1a8
hotm Hulk feat is far greater than being in the event horizon of a real black hole (real black hole >= comic black hole).Think of the force to shatter planet with one punch x 1000.
I did some calculations. The most force one will experience halfway in the event horizon of a small black hole is astronomically less than that punch.
You can't actually prove that. Given the canon has it as not a normal planet. For one, when talking about other universes, including the Dark Dimension, we see it stated the laws of physics don't necessarily work the same(first narration box, bottom left panel)
Bottom middle panel talks about WHY the Dark Dimension is dark. Gravity is weaker there, so stars don't exist, and other issues. Like the very fabric of space itself, the "glue of the universe," is porous and weaker.
I believe it was HulkIsHulk who tried to counter it with this scan--
That the mystics of the Dark Dimension used magick to stabilize gravity. But they merely stabilized it, not increased it. The very same series later has Surfer say matter in that universe seems weaker, which doesn't help any argument that the mages stabilizing gravity debunks the planet being weaker.
This is going to trigger the Hulk stans, but HOTM strongly suggests Hulk died from it. In fact at one point says Hulk is destroyed and reformed. When preparing for when he'll stop holding back, Hulk says "we're gonna FIGHT like NO ONE else has fought BEFORE. And we're gonna DIE. And then we're gonna fight some more."
The emphasis on "we're" is my own, but to highlight. Hulk says they're going to fight, die, and fight more. He does not exclude himself at all.
Hulk later repeats it, saying, "It's just time to FIGHT.....and DIE.....like the MONSTERS we are." Emphasis on "we" again my own.
Again, Hulk says they're going to die, and does NOT exclude himself. So we twice have Hulk say "we/we're going to die" and does NOT exclude himself, but Doctor Strange also said nobody will survive, and he didn't exclude Hulk. In fact, Strange says nobody surviving is the end he wants.
We know people died only to be brought back, like Cho and Dr. Cosimo, and seemingly Urma as well.
It's specifically stated he's going to be in an eternal cycle of "--fighting, burning and reforming--" so in addition to Hulk twice saying "we're" going to die(not excluding himself) and Strange saying similar, we have someone saying Hulk burns and REFORMS, after we see people who died came back.
Also, we have it stated the magick from the Wishing Well will resurrect everyone. Again, no exclusion of Hulk.
It also seemed to be a shared feat with Red She-Hulk and the comic specifically stated she's as powerful as Hulk at this point.
Stoic has claimed that it's valid because she had Hulk's power, but I need to see evidence it's valid as a feat solely for Hulk.
But even if it is, Hulk at his strongest destroyed a planet with weak gravity and matter and died from it. Which is less impressive than say Gor destroying GL auto-shields.