HOTM Hulk vs. This team of Kryptonians

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yet when it's clearly said the Dark Dimension is weaker than 616.....Carver denies it

Interesting.

He continuously ignores a few glaring facts from the story itself, which I find rather humorous:

a.) Not one shred of evidence implies that they were anything but normal, hydrogen/helium-based, healthy suns -- which Superman explicitly noted whilst viewing them at a molecular level(if there actually were a difference, that's when we would have been made aware of such.) Moreover, why would WF place these purported 'hyper-amping supersuns' in a galactic prison that he explicitly created to keep Superman weakened and near-death?

b.) The cosmology that WF creates within the 6th dimension does not have to be "different" from 3rd-dimensional cosmology... just cuz. Like I have reiterated several times: the multiverse that WF created within the 6th dimension was an exact replica of the 3D multiverse -- from a cosmological standpoint, they were indistinguishable from one another(even to the Judges of the Source.)

tl;dr
Yes, the 6th dimension itself is different from the 3rd dimension (duh, lol.) The cosmology that WF creates within the 6th dimension, however, is clearly a different story. So if carv is arguing that the suns themselves were different than normal suns, then the burden falls on him to explicitly prove it(with something other than opinionated nonsense and/or personal interpretations, obvs.)

...Not that I expect carv to directly address these glaring counterpoints, of course. He will just keep moving goalposts and spamming the same panel, which does not directly address the topics at hand. Some things never change, etc. /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
carver asserts that "these suns were>>>>you're average suns", simply because WF created them within the 6th dimension.

He continuously ignores a few glaring facts from the story itself, which I find rather humorous:

a.) Not one shred of evidence implies that they were anything but normal, hydrogen/helium-based, healthy suns -- which Superman explicitly noted whilst viewing them at a molecular level(if there actually were a difference, that's when we would have been made aware of such.) Moreover, why would WF place these purported 'hyper-amping supersuns' in a galactic prison that he explicitly created to keep Superman weakened and near-death?

b.) The cosmology that WF creates within the 6th dimension does not have to be "different" from 3rd-dimensional cosmology... just cuz. Like I have reiterated several times: the multiverse that WF created within the 6th dimension was an exact replica of the 3D multiverse -- from a cosmological standpoint, they were indistinguishable from one another(even to the Judges of the Source.)

tl;dr
Yes, the 6th dimension itself is different from the 3rd dimension (duh, lol.) The cosmology that WF creates within the 6th dimension, however, is clearly a different story. So if carv is arguing that the suns themselves were different than normal suns, then the burden falls on him to explicitly prove it(with something other than opinionated nonsense and/or personal interpretations, obvs.)

...Not that I expect carv to directly address these glaring counterpoints, of course. He will just keep moving goalposts and spamming the same panel, which does not directly address the topics at hand. Some things never change, etc. /shrug

So a copy of the main multiverse in a control room of the multiverse also makes perfect sense, Since that was where Perpetua created it

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
And you also have the fact that original/previous multiverse( I.E normal multiverse) was designed and set in motion within 6th dimension, Which actually proved a normal multiverse can/did exist within 6th dimension
https://ibb.co/4FqdGyr
https://ibb.co/PTKS71j

So a copy of the main multiverse in a control room of the multiverse also makes perfect sense, Since that was where Perpetua created it

Originally posted by Galan007
carver asserts that "these suns were>>>>you're average suns", simply because WF created them within the 6th dimension.

He continuously ignores a few glaring facts from the story itself, which I find rather humorous:

a.) Not one shred of evidence implies that they were anything but normal, hydrogen/helium-based, healthy suns -- which Superman explicitly noted whilst viewing them at a molecular level(if there actually were a difference, that's when we would have been made aware of such.) Moreover, why would WF place these purported 'hyper-amping supersuns' in a galactic prison that he explicitly created to keep Superman weakened and near-death?

b.) The cosmology that WF creates within the 6th dimension does not have to be "different" from 3rd-dimensional cosmology... just cuz. Like I have reiterated several times: the multiverse that WF created within the 6th dimension was an exact replica of the 3D multiverse -- from a cosmological standpoint, they were indistinguishable from one another(even to the Judges of the Source.)

tl;dr
Yes, the 6th dimension itself is different from the 3rd dimension (duh, lol.) The cosmology that WF creates within the 6th dimension, however, is clearly a different story. So if carv is arguing that the suns themselves were different than normal suns, then the burden falls on him to explicitly prove it(with something other than opinionated nonsense and/or personal interpretations, obvs.)

...Not that I expect carv to directly address these glaring counterpoints, of course. He will just keep moving goalposts and spamming the same panel, which does not directly address the topics at hand. Some things never change, etc. /shrug

Not just because he created them in the 6th dimension, it's because WF made everything perfect, better. This was explained here as well...

https://ibb.co/SxsjG0p
https://ibb.co/SRw70MG
https://ibb.co/6bwK7fk
https://ibb.co/7j0DYnb

Then, again, the 6th dimension is BEYOND imagination, so anything is possible there. Batman was moving suns from one side of the dimension to the other.

You keep mentioning WF creating things in the 6th dimension without understanding that WF can allow anything to be there under his own power. He wrote the rules there, if he wants something to be there, it will be there. The problem comes when someone or something from the outside tries to go into the 6th dimension. Even Mxy can't go into the 6th dimension. He had to use all of his power to open a small door to get there. This should explain a lot. Don't know why you keep mentioning WF creating things there when he have the power to create and allow in the 6th dimension.

Why put suns there anyways? His plan was to kill off Superman so that he can absorb his life energies after he died. Why even have suns there in the first place? None of this matters since he asked Batman to move them since he himself knew having the suns there was a problem. Yes, you keep mentioning the multiverse being in the 6th dimension that WF ALLOWED to be there. If he didn't have control on what can and cannot be in the 6th dimension, you'll have an argument here but he does control what can live and not live in that dimension.

All I'm saying is, everything about the 6th dimension is an amplified (far amplified) version of the main universe. The 6th dimension is beyond understanding and imagination, even above MXY perception and understanding. This alone push away any fts that happened in that dimension because again, it's beyond understanding and imagination, even for an omnipotent being like Mxy.

Why do you continuously ignore the fact that just because certain cosmology was created within the 6th dimension, does not mean it defaults to "wildly different and therefore more powerful"..? This fact has been driven home for you ad nauseam, yet you still ignore it. Interesting.

Anyhow, you still fail to present any tangible proof that the suns themselves were any different from normal suns, so I'll just continue assuming that they were exactly what Superman saw when analyzing them at a molecular level:
https://ibb.co/H23Nn2j
...Normal, hydrogen/helium-based, healthy suns. No more, no less. 🙂

You are welcome to think whatever you want, but I cannot begin to take you seriously unless some specific evidence to support your specific claim is presented... Attempts at blanket generalization made based on your opinions of 6th dimensional cosmology aren't enough.

Originally posted by Galan007
Why do you continuously ignore the fact that just because certain cosmology was created within the 6th dimension, does not mean it defaults to "wildly different and therefore more powerful"..? This fact has been driven home for you ad nauseam, yet you still ignore it. Interesting.

Anyhow, you still fail to present any tangible proof that the suns themselves were any different from normal suns, so I'll just continue assuming that they were exactly what Superman saw when analyzing them at a molecular level:
https://ibb.co/H23Nn2j
...Normal, hydrogen/helium-based, healthy suns. No more, no less. 🙂

You are welcome to think whatever you want, but I cannot begin to take you seriously unless some specific evidence to support your specific claim is presented... Attempts at blanket generalization made based on your opinions of 6th dimensional cosmology aren't enough.

Unless otherwise stated, it's a general rule that things tend to work along the same lines, assuming they're not identical. It's like, a basic rule of fiction.

Carver is wrong. Again.

Going by what the writer/creator of the 6th dimension explained, Carver is right

Originally posted by JBL
Clark Kent is Superman, but you cannot tell him from a regular human, but they are FAR different in power.

The same cannot be said about the suns.

Originally posted by JBL
Going by what the writer/creator of the 6th dimension explained, Carver is right

Sounds like you're both wrong then.

Originally posted by carver9
Not just because he created them in the 6th dimension, it's because WF made everything perfect, better. This was explained here as well...

https://ibb.co/SxsjG0p
https://ibb.co/SRw70MG
https://ibb.co/6bwK7fk
https://ibb.co/7j0DYnb

Then, again, the 6th dimension is BEYOND imagination, so anything is possible there. Batman was moving suns from one side of the dimension to the other.

You keep mentioning WF creating things in the 6th dimension without understanding that WF can allow anything to be there under his own power. He wrote the rules there, if he wants something to be there, it will be there. The problem comes when someone or something from the outside tries to go into the 6th dimension. Even Mxy can't go into the 6th dimension. He had to use all of his power to open a small door to get there. This should explain a lot. Don't know why you keep mentioning WF creating things there when he have the power to create and allow in the 6th dimension.

Why put suns there anyways? His plan was to kill off Superman so that he can absorb his life energies after he died. Why even have suns there in the first place? None of this matters since he asked Batman to move them since he himself knew having the suns there was a problem. Yes, you keep mentioning the multiverse being in the 6th dimension that WF ALLOWED to be there. If he didn't have control on what can and cannot be in the 6th dimension, you'll have an argument here but he does control what can live and not live in that dimension.

All I'm saying is, everything about the 6th dimension is an amplified (far amplified) version of the main universe. The 6th dimension is beyond understanding and imagination, even above MXY perception and understanding. This alone push away any fts that happened in that dimension because again, it's beyond understanding and imagination, even for an omnipotent being like Mxy.

Simple question. Was it the writer's intention that the suns Superman went through amped him more than a normal sun would (like our sun)?

Originally posted by h1a8
Simple question. Was it the writer's intention that the suns Superman went through amped him more than a normal sun would (like our sun)?

Originally posted by JBL
Now what powered him up to do that and where was he at??

do you have anything stating that the suns were more then just normal suns? if not then cut the trolling thing you are trying to do and stfu. 🙂

Originally posted by JBL
Smh . Do the writer have to spell it out to you Superman fans?? That realm is where the impossible happens, you know like Superman escaping that planet while weakend is impossible right?? Well guess what?? The impossible happened! You know like when he said he has flown faster than he ever has?? Now what powered him up to do that and where was he at?? That realm defies logic. Carver knew that, but you Superman fans are so busy trying to make excuses for Superman, that it went right over your heads.

Originally posted by h1a8
Simple question. Was it the writer's intention that the suns Superman went through amped him more than a normal sun would (like our sun)?

No. Superman was buffed by the stars that he flew through as he would be buffed normally, but in this case, I believe that the writer wanted the reader to understand that Superman was buffed multiple times in a row, which made him faster and more powerful than ever. At least from my perspective. I won't flat out claim that Carver is wrong, but I will say that I didn't see it the way that he did, or does.

Originally posted by Stoic
No. Superman was buffed by the stars that he flew through as he would be buffed normally, but in this case, I believe that the writer wanted the reader to understand that Superman was buffed multiple times in a row, which made him faster and more powerful than ever. At least from my perspective. I won't flat out claim that Carver is wrong, but I will say that I didn't see it the way that he did, or does.

So Carv is flat out wrong.

Originally posted by h1a8
Exactly. That was the writer's intention. Superman gained more power each sun he went through (otherwise why write Superman flying through multiple sun's?). It was nothing special about the sun's (according to writer's intent).

So Carv is flat out wrong.

And

Originally posted by JBL
Lmao. So you know the writers intention?? Superman was WHITE HOT and bursting with energy. Normal stars do not do that to him. Smh.

And the Dark Dimension is more fragile than 616.

Originally posted by JBL
Lmao. So you know the writers intention?? Superman was WHITE HOT and bursting with energy. Normal stars do not do that to him. Smh.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
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