Hugo Danner (Gladiator) vs. The Cullen Family (Twilight)

Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, Broly. They're in those five horrible films that make up The Twilight Saga. eg Edward has super fighting speed which makes him hard to see to the human eye, of which Hugo's sub 150mph running speed couldn't compete with. Eddy boy could also read Hugo's mind, allowing him to see what Hugo is planning before Hugo does it.

Then there's the rest of the Cullen clan...

And you're joining in. Provide evidence that I am this Broly person.

As I already made it clear in the excerpts provided Hugo Danner is both a bullet-timer, and able to run anywhere between 240 mph to 600 mph. Being too fast for the "human eye to see" is not a quantifiable feat. On top of that Hugo Danner is both much stronger and more durable than they are.

Originally posted by Duke Togo 2.0
And you're joining in. Provide evidence that I am this Broly person.

As I already made it clear in the excerpts provided Hugo Danner is both a bullet-timer, and able to run anywhere between 240 mph to 600 mph. Being too fast for the "human eye to see" is not a quantifiable feat. On top of that Hugo Danner is both much stronger and more durable than they are.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
durmask if you're not Broly, Broly, why was your previous account banned mmm

That's what I want to know. The guy doesn't even give me a reason.

Originally posted by Duke Togo 2.0
And you're joining in. Provide evidence that I am this Broly person.

As I already made it clear in the excerpts provided Hugo Danner is both a bullet-timer, and able to run anywhere between 240 mph to 600 mph. Being too fast for the "human eye to see" is not a quantifiable feat. On top of that Hugo Danner is both much stronger and more durable than they are.

Sure it is, as we know how the human eye and brain works. For an object to be invisible to the human eye's ability to track, it would have to be moving in excess of 38,000 mph.

They could also see things moving in terms of sixteenths of a second etc....they had fast reactions and could think at superhuman speeds

Which doesn't bode well when they're also telepaths.

@Robtard

Then provide evidence or drop it, Robtard. That is an appropriate name by the way.

Nope, moving faster than the human eye is a trope in fiction that's often abused and doesn't actually mean they're completely invisible. This would require us to take liberties with author intent. It's often used interchangeably with anything that's difficult to see. Most people have difficulty seeing a professional baseball player throw a fast ball. That doesn't mean it's moving so fast it would burst into flames due to air compression. Which is another thing if they're that fast why aren't they on fire?

Originally posted by Duke Togo 2.0
@Robtard

Then provide evidence or drop it, Robtard. That is an appropriate name by the way.

Nope, moving faster than the human eye is a trope in fiction that's often abused and doesn't actually mean they're completely invisible. This would require us to take liberties with author intent. It's often used interchangeably with anything that's difficult to see. Most people have difficulty seeing a professional baseball player throw a fast ball. That doesn't mean it's moving so fast it would burst into flames due to air compression. Which is another thing if they're that fast why aren't they on fire?

Originally posted by Duke Togo 2.0
@Robtard

Then provide evidence or drop it, Robtard. That is an appropriate name by the way.

Nope, moving faster than the human eye is a trope in fiction that's often abused and doesn't actually mean they're completely invisible. This would require us to take liberties with author intent. It's often used interchangeably with anything that's difficult to see. Most people have difficulty seeing a professional baseball player throw a fast ball. That doesn't mean it's moving so fast it would burst into flames due to air compression. Which is another thing if they're that fast why aren't they on fire?

Oh Broly...

You deciding that character feats just don't count because they ruin your biases is such a Broly thing to do. Sorry, they count, it's part of the characters.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
They could also see things moving in terms of sixteenths of a second etc....they had fast reactions and could think at superhuman speeds

Which doesn't bode well when they're also telepaths.

Lmao, this is barely above peak human reaction speed.

And Edward is the only telepath, and by feats much slower than Hugo Danner.

You know what's funny?

The scan posted by Togo the first, EXPLICITLY shows that Hugo wasn't too fast for the eye to see - Hugo's dad was able to follow him on the second go.

So the Cullens ARE quantifiably faster, lmao. Hugo isn't faster than the eye can follow, the Cullens are.

Originally posted by Duke Togo 2.0
Lmao, this is barely above peak human reaction speed.

And Edward is the only telepath, and by feats much slower than Hugo Danner.

Yet your scan shows Hugo isn't faster than the human eye.

Originally posted by Robtard
Oh Broly...

You deciding that character feats just don't count because they ruin your biases is such a Broly thing to do. Sorry, they count, it's part of the characters.

Your argument is flagrantly in defiance of how KE even works. Answer the question why aren't they on fire? Why can people hear them coming if they're faster than sound. Literally at several points in the books people hear them before they arrive. Which makes them subsonic.

Originally posted by Duke Togo 2.0
Your argument is flagrantly in defiance of how KE even works. Answer the question why aren't they on fire? Why can people hear them coming if they're faster than sound. Literally at several points in the books people hear them before they arrive. Which makes them subsonic.

That's just a trope, like Batman being able to chat to Superman as he reassembles the Moon.

I like how you invoke 'its a trope!!!' when it suits you lmao.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TalkingIsAFreeAction

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You know what's funny?

The scan posted by Togo the first, EXPLICITLY shows that Hugo wasn't too fast for the eye to see - Hugo's dad was able to follow him on the second go.

So the Cullens ARE quantifiably faster, lmao. Hugo isn't faster than the eye can follow, the Cullens are.

Moving faster than the eye isn't quantifiable because it's almost always used in a hyperbolic fashion, and that was when Hugo Danner was much younger. Also, as I asked before. Why can anyone hear vampires move in the books before they actually arrive if they're faster than sound?

@DarkSaint85

Nope, different trope. I wasn't talking about a conversation they were having. I was talking about a character hearing them coming. Which shouldn't be possible if they're faster than sound.

Originally posted by Duke Togo 2.0
Moving faster than the eye isn't quantifiable because it's almost always used in a hyperbolic fashion, and that was when Hugo Danner was much younger. Also, as I asked before. Why can anyone hear vampires move in the books before they actually arrive if they're faster than sound?

As I explained - it's a trope. I even linked to it. But good way to ignore it. Flash can run FTL - but people can see them.

Superman can fly FTL - yet get amped by sunlight.

And faster than the eye can see IS faster than poor old Hugo - because your very own scan EXPLICITLY shows he is NOT faster than the eye can see lol

So no matter what speed 'faster than the eye can see' is, it is completely irrelevant - all that matters is it is faster than Hugo, as per your own proof.

Good evidence 👆

Claiming feats just don't count if they counter his points is so Broly...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
As I explained - it's a trope. I even linked to it. But good way to ignore it. Flash can run FTL - but people can see them.

Superman can fly FTL - yet get amped by sunlight.

And faster than the eye can see IS faster than poor old Hugo - because your very own scan EXPLICITLY shows he is NOT faster than the eye can see lol

So no matter what speed 'faster than the eye can see' is, it is completely irrelevant - all that matters is it is faster than Hugo, as per your own proof.

Good evidence 👆

You haven't actually provided any evidence of this, and based it entirely on hyperbole. Faster than the eye can see has no set definition in fiction, and changes depending on the writer. Unless it's clear cut, as in the speed is directly stated, it's not usable.

It's clearly stated that he's faster than Hugo

Hugo isn't faster than the human eye can follow.

The Cullens are. Unless you have proof human eyes in the Danner universe are different to human eyes in the Twilight universe, the Cullens are faster.

Thanks for your scan, really illuminating. 👆

Originally posted by Robtard
Claiming feats just don't count if they counter his points is so Broly...

Claiming hyperbole as a feat, and equating all instances of "faster than the eye" to be high-hypersonic is completely insane. It's almost as bad as saying that because sight is reliant on light? Then anyone who truly moves faster than it is FTL.