Originally posted by cdtm
Well, look at Democrat strongholds. If this isn't virtue signaling or a tactic where they promote something they know can never happen and have no real intention of happening, then why haven't we seen a state or major city under democrat control enact these policies?
San Francisco has single-payer health care for the entire city. Google is free.
Originally posted by Robtard
How are Republicans honest about it? eg they've promised a better replacement to the ACA (aka Obamacare) since the ACA became law. Trumpcare in 2018 was a debacle that would have left people who had insurance, without insurance, luckily McCain stopped it. They claimed their Tax Reform wouldn't be a boon to the richest people, claimed it'd actually hurt them, they jut became richer. Mexico was going to pay for the glorious mega-wall, the parts that where built were done on our tax dollars.
The best replacement for Obamacare is to make people responsible for their own health.
Free government insurance encourages malingering and not working.
Originally posted by Robtard
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed
This should help.
Originally posted by Robtard
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Oh you're totally right. Idk why I posted warp speed in relation to Obamacare.
Maybe I had another thread open ???
I'm not sure, anyways back to my argument against Obamacare.
This is what I was talking about and meant to post.
Sorry for the confusion, and thank you for the correction.
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Oh you're totally right. Idk why I posted warp speed in relation to Obamacare.Maybe I had another thread open ???
I'm not sure, anyways back to my argument against Obamacare.
This is what I was talking about and meant to post.
Sorry for the confusion, and thank you for the correction.
"Whole Foods CEO John Mackey: The 'best solution' is to not need health care and for Americans to change how they eat and live" -snip
He's not wrong about the American diet/lifestyle and how it relates to poor health. But we still need a universal healthcare, ideally Medicare for all. So he's right on one and a retard on the other. 50/50
Originally posted by Robtard
"Whole Foods CEO John Mackey: The 'best solution' is to not need health care and for Americans to change how they eat and live" -snipHe's not wrong about the American diet/lifestyle and how it relates to poor health. But we still need a universal healthcare, ideally Medicare for all. So he's right on one and a retard on the other. 50/50
Why do we need Medicare for all ?
Estimates of the medical cost of adult obesity in the United States (U.S.) range from $147 billion to nearly $210 billion per year. The majority of the spending is generated from treating obesity-related diseases such as diabetes and cardiovascular disease, among others.
So you'd want a country where nearly half the population is obese to be rewarded with free healthcare ? Pretty sure youtube workout and diet videos and some individual ambition would be better than stealing from the healthy to pay for the non healthy, no ?
Originally posted by RobtardThey also tend to forget that there only so much these strongholds can do because they are still a part of the bigger world. For instance if you live in a major democratic city in a red state it's hard to enact voter reforms or keep suppressive voter laws from effecting you.
Originally posted by Newjak
They also tend to forget that there only so much these strongholds can do because they are still a part of the bigger world. For instance if you live in a major democratic city in a red state it's hard to enact voter reforms or keep suppressive voter laws from effecting you.
This is why secession is necessary. Then there'd be no quibbles over red or blue states.
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Why do we need Medicare for all ?Estimates of the medical cost of adult obesity in the United States (U.S.) range from $147 billion to nearly $210 billion per year. The majority of the spending is generated from treating obesity-related diseases such as diabetes and cardiovascular disease, among others.
So you'd want a country where nearly half the population is obese to be rewarded with free healthcare ? Pretty sure youtube workout and diet videos and some individual ambition would be better than stealing from the healthy to pay for the non healthy, no ?
So all people have health care, which should be a right in America.
Yes, yes, "fat people bad", I'm well aware you feel that way, Ziggy.
Anyhow, part of universal healthcare should be trying to get people to eat better and get at least minimal exercise like walking.
Originally posted by Newjak
They also tend to forget that there only so much these strongholds can do because they are still a part of the bigger world. For instance if you live in a major democratic city in a red state it's hard to enact voter reforms or keep suppressive voter laws from effecting you.
Yup
Originally posted by Robtard
So all people have health care, which should be a right in America.Yes, yes, "fat people bad", I'm well aware you feel that way, Ziggy.
Anyhow, part of universal healthcare should be trying to get people to eat better and get at least minimal exercise like walking.
Why does encouraging healthy lifestyles require a government apparatus ? Couldn't we just make being overweight something that's socially stigmatized ?
Surely you'd argue that calling people like Tess holiday normal, let alone beautiful, is an exercise in delusion, no ?
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Why does encouraging healthy lifestyles require a government apparatus ? Couldn't we just make being overweight something that's socially stigmatized ?
Surely you'd argue that calling people like Tess holiday normal, let alone beautiful, is an exercise in delusion, no ?
It would be a bonus added to a UHC system, not necessarily a requirement. Both can exist.
Fat shamming is already a thing, has been for a very long time. Bad faith argument, that.