Covid 2021 (Be Proper or GTFO)
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Originally posted by Jaden_2.0The ratio will likely continue in the direction of more death in vaccinated people purely by virtue of more people being vaccinated as a % of the population.
The numbers between January and July tell a more complete picture of progression though.
That's the thing, the anti-vax/science crowd are counting almost every death of a vaccinated person as being related to the vaccine. It's weird.
Re: Covid 2021 (Be Proper or GTFO)
Originally posted by Robtard
That's the thing, the anti-vax/science crowd are counting almost every death of a vaccinated person as being related to the vaccine. It's weird.
Yeah it makes no sense when 70% of the population has been vaccinated. Like what, was the vaccine supposed to cure death or something ?
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah it makes no sense when 70% of the population has been vaccinated. Like what, was the vaccine supposed to cure death or something ?
Not like Covid death numbers, which count being splattered by a meteor from space as "covid related death" if the person tested positive.
Originally posted by cdtm
if the person tested positive.
Key part.
It was at least verified they had this horrid disease within the month before they died.
You can argue it was verified someone had the vaccine before dying. But come on, most people have been vaccinated.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
What happened to the old thread?
People were reporting insults to the mod. No idea who. I was accused of supporting grooming gangs, terrorist beheadings and pedophiles. So I would be the prime suspect to report someone, but I can assure you I never did.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Key part.It was at least verified they had this horrid disease within the month before they died.
You can argue it was verified someone had the vaccine before dying. But come on, most people have been vaccinated.
People were reporting insults to the mod. No idea who. I was accused of supporting grooming gangs, terrorists and pedophiles. So I would be the prime suspect to report someone, but I can assure you I never did.
But they're rolling positive tests into "musta died of covid".
To inflate the Covid death numbers. A guy dies of lung cancer yet tested positive for Covid before hand, that becomes part of the figure media keep throwing out to scare the public into vaccination.
So why is it a problem if they do the same with "vaccine related deaths". 🙂
Originally posted by Darth Thortbh, I've never seen any indication you do any of that. You're a good guy in my book mate.
Key part.It was at least verified they had this horrid disease within the month before they died.
You can argue it was verified someone had the vaccine before dying. But come on, most people have been vaccinated.
People were reporting insults to the mod. No idea who. I was accused of supporting grooming gangs, terrorist beheadings and pedophiles. So I would be the prime suspect to report someone, but I can assure you I never did.
Originally posted by BlakemoreO.K. the usual weird shit from the dynamic duo.
Methneo and Eon kept dishing out insults because they couldn't believe I got kisses off of women for dressing up as V for Vendetta on Halloween.Seriously, I couldn't believe how popular I was just for wearing a novelty mask and a leather jacket. XD
I'm in Northern Nigerua right now, so less communication sadly. I have a Oolice escort everywhere here and even an AK for me in the Land cruiser, was testing it earlier and the selector is too stiff.
Originally posted by cdtm
But they're rolling positive tests into "musta died of covid".To inflate the Covid death numbers. A guy dies of lung cancer yet tested positive for Covid before hand, that becomes part of the figure media keep throwing out to scare the public into vaccination.
So why is it a problem if they do the same with "vaccine related deaths". 🙂
If you have a pre-existing condition, and you get covid, and it weakens you enough that the pre-existing condition kills you even if you were hanging on before, then that's a covid related death.
You can talk about fudging the numbers all you want, but these deaths do occur.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
What happened to the old thread?
People couldn't ****ing behave themselves is what.
Originally posted by -Pr-👆
If you have a pre-existing condition, and you get covid, and it weakens you enough that the pre-existing condition kills you even if you were hanging on before, then that's a covid related death.You can talk about fudging the numbers all you want, but these deaths do occur.
People couldn't ****ing behave themselves is what.
Originally posted by -Pr-Pr is correct here. It's like if an AIDS patient gets the common cold and dies of the common cold, well they wouldn't have if they didn't have AIDS. Just like someone dying from pneumonia wouldn't have died had they not had COVID beforehand.
If you have a pre-existing condition, and you get covid, and it weakens you enough that the pre-existing condition kills you even if you were hanging on before, then that's a covid related death.You can talk about fudging the numbers all you want, but these deaths do occur.
People couldn't ****ing behave themselves is what.
Originally posted by -Pr-
If you have a pre-existing condition, and you get covid, and it weakens you enough that the pre-existing condition kills you even if you were hanging on before, then that's a covid related death.You can talk about fudging the numbers all you want, but these deaths do occur.
People couldn't ****ing behave themselves is what.
I don't deny this though.
What I'm saying is the vaccines have adverse effects in people. E.g., weakens them.
So why couldn't it be true that someone with a weak heart would have been fine, and the vax compromised him enough for that fatal heart attack?
The other side is effectively demanding a higher burden of proof for vaccine deaths then for Covid deaths. Simply testing positive for Covid is good enough to label it a death, yet for the vaccine they want proof beyond all doubt that it was the vaccine that killed you.
It's naked hypocrisy.
Originally posted by cdtm
I don't deny this though.What I'm saying is the vaccines have adverse effects in people. E.g., [b]weakens them.
So why couldn't it be true that someone with a weak heart would have been fine, and the vax compromised him enough for that fatal heart attack?
The other side is effectively demanding a higher burden of proof for vaccine deaths then for Covid deaths. Simply testing positive for Covid is good enough to label it a death, yet for the vaccine they want proof beyond all doubt that it was the vaccine that killed you.
It's naked hypocrisy. [/B]
I'm never going to claim that vaccines are perfect. What I would say is, or rather ask, is that even if there is a risk from a vaccine, has it not been proven by the sheer amount of recorded deaths that covid itself is more dangerous than any vaccine?
It is hypocrisy to want one and discount the other, yes. But that doesn't mean that the vaccine isn't safer than covid, and I find it hard to believe anyone that says they're even close to being remotely equal in danger.
Originally posted by -Pr-👆
I'm never going to claim that vaccines are perfect. What I would say is, or rather ask, is that even if there is a risk from a vaccine, has it not been proven by the sheer amount of recorded deaths that covid itself is more dangerous than any vaccine?It is hypocrisy to want one and discount the other, yes. But that doesn't mean that the vaccine isn't safer than covid, and I find it hard to believe anyone that says they're even close to being remotely equal in danger.