Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnaemore a case of unvaxxed spreading the virus to the vulnerable, than the vaxxed.
For like the dozenth time already, it is the vaxxed spreading the variants, not the unvaxxed, so spare me any baloney about how unvaxxed need to get vaxxed in order to protect the vaxxed.That's total horseshit.
Originally posted by Deano
Where are you getting these 'facts' from? Surely not from the same people who are trying to convince you these jabs are
Numerous sources.
Oxford University study
Dept of Pathology Sidra University Doha Study
Canadian Immunisation Research Network
There are literally hundreds of large studies from different organisations across the globe that have published fully peer reviewed papers and/or pre prints awaiting peer review.
Of course, if you start with the conjecture that the entirety of the world's leading medical academic institutions are "in on it" then none of that will make any difference which is why I don't believe you when you say you'd consider vaccination once they've been "proven safe" because it'll be those same institutions conducting that research in the future and you'll have already marked them as being part of a huge global conspiracy.
It's also amusing because I'm willing to wager that you'd happily take a painkiller for a headache yet neither paracetamol or ibuprofen would pass the modern safety protocols that all 3 main covid vaccines had to and would never be allowed on the market these days if developed now.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0DERP! Peer reviewed scientific university studies are fake news created by super intelligent aliens and aren't el trudeau!
Numerous sources.Oxford University study
Dept of Pathology Sidra University Doha Study
Canadian Immunisation Research NetworkThere are literally hundreds of large studies from different organisations across the globe that have published fully peer reviewed papers and/or pre prints awaiting peer review.
Of course, if you start with the conjecture that the entirety of the world's leading medical academic institutions are "in on it" then none of that will make any difference which is why I don't believe you when you say you'd consider vaccination once they've been "proven safe" because it'll be those same institutions conducting that research in the future and you'll have already marked them as being part of a huge global conspiracy.
It's also amusing because I'm willing to wager that you'd happily take a painkiller for a headache yet neither paracetamol or ibuprofen would pass the modern safety protocols that all 3 main covid vaccines had to and would never be allowed on the market these days if developed now.
I recommend buying brain force from Alex Jones and subscribe to his live show where he can tell you how the moon is fake and chemicals in the water turn frogs gay to control us into soyboys to obey sulphur moloch.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Numerous sources.Oxford University study
Dept of Pathology Sidra University Doha Study
Canadian Immunisation Research NetworkThere are literally hundreds of large studies from different organisations across the globe that have published fully peer reviewed papers and/or pre prints awaiting peer review.
Of course, if you start with the conjecture that the entirety of the world's leading medical academic institutions are "in on it" then none of that will make any difference which is why I don't believe you when you say you'd consider vaccination once they've been "proven safe" because it'll be those same institutions conducting that research in the future and you'll have already marked them as being part of a huge global conspiracy.
It's also amusing because I'm willing to wager that you'd happily take a painkiller for a headache yet neither paracetamol or ibuprofen would pass the modern safety protocols that all 3 main covid vaccines had to and would never be allowed on the market these days if developed now.
All carefully controlled sources, or culled at best from opposition studies.
Just as happened when the "noble savage" myth was running strong and the media burried opposing evidence that a backwards paradise matriarch lead non industrialized society was anything but perfect.
Originally posted by cdtmYou don't know what controlled means in a scientific study. 😂 😆 laughcry
All carefully controlled sources, or culled at best from opposition studies.Just as happened when the "noble savage" myth was running strong and the media burried opposing evidence that a backwards paradise matriarch lead non industrialized society was anything but perfect.
Originally posted by Blakemore
You don't know what controlled means in a scientific study. 😂 😆 laughcry
Not that kind of controlled! 😛
They're eithsr manufactering fake news and controlling the information flow, or hand picking studies that match their agenda while burying or ignoring the opposition.
Originally posted by cdtm
All carefully controlled sources, or culled at best from opposition studies.Just as happened when the "noble savage" myth was running strong and the media burried opposing evidence that a backwards paradise matriarch lead non industrialized society was anything but perfect.
So post some "opposition studies" then.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Numerous sources.Oxford University study
Dept of Pathology Sidra University Doha Study
Canadian Immunisation Research NetworkThere are literally hundreds of large studies from different organisations across the globe that have published fully peer reviewed papers and/or pre prints awaiting peer review.
Of course, if you start with the conjecture that the entirety of the world's leading medical academic institutions are "in on it" then none of that will make any difference which is why I don't believe you when you say you'd consider vaccination once they've been "proven safe" because it'll be those same institutions conducting that research in the future and you'll have already marked them as being part of a huge global conspiracy.
It's also amusing because I'm willing to wager that you'd happily take a painkiller for a headache yet neither paracetamol or ibuprofen would pass the modern safety protocols that all 3 main covid vaccines had to and would never be allowed on the market these days if developed now.
How much money do they get from big pharma to ''Settle that science''? When i stop hearing of people having bloodclots every 5 minutes I'll consider it safe
"The medical profession is being bought by the pharmaceutical industry, not only in terms of the practice of medicine, but also in terms of teaching and research," said the late Arnold Relman, a former editor-in-chief of the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) in 2002. He passed away in 2014."The academic institutions of this country are allowing themselves to be the paid agents of the pharmaceutical industry. I think it's disgraceful."
https://www.sciencealert.com/how-much-top-journal-editors-get-paid-by-big-pharma-corrupt
I don't like taking Paracetamol or ibuprofen. I've only taken ibuprofen in recent years when i had the worst toothache imaginal. The thing is, Ibuprofen actually works , serves a purpose and i can see the results, plus its not going to permanently alter my DNA, unlike the experimental MRNA jab.
Originally posted by cdtm
Not that kind of controlled! 😛They're eithsr manufactering fake news and controlling the information flow, or hand picking studies that match their agenda while burying or ignoring the opposition.
We already know that any doctor or scientist who posts something contrary to the mainstream natrative gets censored or banned from platform for "spreading misinformation".
Originally posted by Deano
How much money do they get from big pharma to ''Settle that science''? When i stop hearing of people having bloodclots every 5 minutes I'll consider it safehttps://www.sciencealert.com/how-much-top-journal-editors-get-paid-by-big-pharma-corrupt
I don't like taking Paracetamol or ibuprofen. I've only taken ibuprofen in recent years when i had the worst toothache imaginal. The thing is, Ibuprofen actually works , serves a purpose and i can see the results, plus its not going to permanently alter my DNA, unlike the experimental MRNA jab.
I'm well aware that pharmaceutical companies lobby doctors to promote their product. That's what happens in an insurance based, entirely private system. I don't live in one.
None of what you said about the vaccine has any basis in fact. Nothing.
Originally posted by Deano
This is the company you are putting your trust in
And if someone gets injured or dies from vaccine then they aren't held liable either. That should give you yet another big hint as to just how "safe and effective" they really are.
Now watch as jaden tries to spin it or downplay it. 😉
Originally posted by jaden_2.0Pfizer is known for doing shit like this. I was wary of getting a vaccine from them, (I don't think I did though.)
I'm well aware that pharmaceutical companies lobby doctors to promote their product. That's what happens in an insurance based, entirely private system. I don't live in one.None of what you said about the vaccine has any basis in fact. Nothing.
EU and other governments also use Pfizer meds, so on this occasion, I actually somewhat agree with Deano here. This has more to do with the American healthcare system, as jaden says, not some genocidal conspiracy.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I'm well aware that pharmaceutical companies lobby doctors to promote their product. That's what happens in an insurance based, entirely private system. I don't live in one.None of what you said about the vaccine has any basis in fact. Nothing.
You are still using their product.
My partners aunty died from the vaccine. And her uncle had blood clots and is now on medication for the rest of his life. That's a fact
Its experimental and on trial until 2024. Fact
Its not a vaccine by definition. Fact
The vaccine companies are making billions in profits plus billions more from the injuries they cause. Fact
If that's not good enough then what facts are you interested in?
Originally posted by Blakemore
Pfizer is known for doing shit like this. I was wary of getting a vaccine from them, (I don't think I did though.)EU and other governments also use Pfizer meds, so on this occasion, I actually somewhat agree with Deano here. This has more to do with the American healthcare system, as jaden says, not some genocidal conspiracy.
Its not about conspiracy. Its about billions placing there trust in a company that's more interested in profits then making people healthy. Why would you trust any of them?
Originally posted by DeanoThis happened/happens with polio, chicken pox, small pox, cow pox, meningitis, hepatitis, gang green, cancer Spanish flu, seasonal flu and scarlet fever, just to name a few.
You are still using their product.My partners aunty died from the vaccine. And her uncle had blood clots and is now on medication for the rest of his life. That's a fact
Its experimental and on trial until 2024. Fact
Its not a vaccine by definition. Fact
The vaccine companies are making billions in profits plus billions more from the injuries they cause. Fact
If that's not good enough then what facts are you interested in?
Its not about conspiracy. Its about billions placing there trust in a company that's more interested in profits then making people healthy. Why would you trust any of them?
The truth is, this is applicable to all vaccines. In about 2 years, we'll get a decent vaccine and the pandemic will dissolve into something that rarely happens, not some kind of genocidal conspiracy shilled by goofballs who are trying to sell you something that'll take the lead out of your water.