The MCU has too much influence

Started by cdtm3 pages

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
They even tried making 616 Heimdall black... zero explanation, of course... but that didn't last long, fortunately.

Nick Fury Junior is bad enough.

Distinctly remember 616 Aaron Heimdall black in the comics.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
They even tried making 616 Heimdall black... zero explanation, of course... but that didn't last long, fortunately.

Nick Fury Junior is bad enough.

This is from a few short years ago:

https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Thor-2014/Issue-6?id=7713&readType=0#8

Black Heimdall.

Unless he's white and it's the lighting, but he looks black to me. And he looked the same when Odin made him cry, well before the Jane thing. So what's this business about it not lasting long? Aaron's work spanned a LONG period, years of it.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I'm interested guys, please define "sjw". Also, I'm fascinated where do you all come across them and how do they affect your lives.

SJW is a bad term.

I'll put it in my own terms:

A black woman goes back in time to Civil Rights era 1960's, gets attacked by groups of white racists.

A woman superheroine gets mansplained to, and puts the misogonistic turd in his place.

A gay hero goes back in time and meets his lover who is in the closet, his abusive homophobic uncle shows up and demands he punches the gay in the face.

A Muslim police officer fights back against alt-rights racists who want to drive Muslims out of New York.

This all happened in The Umbrella Academy, Captain Marvel, and an indy comic who's name I forget. None of this is something I enjoy reading about.

I don't actually enjoy politics, they just make me uneasy. I certainly don't want them in my escapism, as I use that stuff to forget about uneasy realities for awhile.

Now compare to anime Baki Hanma, Son of Ogre. Baki wants to beat up his father, who is the strongest man in the world and biggest douche. Baki kidnaps President George W. Bush Jr. specifically to get sent to a special maximum security prison, to pick a fight with a black man named Biscuit Oliva who is the strongest American in the world, who gets to eat filet mignon and smoke cuban cigars and drink vintage wine because otherwise he'd walk out of the prison. Biscuit is in turn in love with a white woman who looks to weigh 800 lbs, and loves her so dearly he keeps a handkerchief from her hometown in his pocket that she never even touched, but is from her area. Biscuit has a rival who looks just like Che Guevara, who is the second strongest person in the prison. They fight and cause earthquakes and lots of mass destruction.

It's ridiculous and stupid and over the top and at times even heart warming, and is entertaining.

The exact opposite of politics, which has never entertained me and never will.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
🙂

Did you see them? Mostly awful, but there were some comedy gems in there.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
They even tried making 616 Heimdall black... zero explanation, of course... but that didn't last long, fortunately.

Nick Fury Junior is bad enough.

That's just a cluster****, yeah.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Did you see them? Mostly awful, but there were some comedy gems in there.

That's just a cluster****, yeah.

No, I didn't see them. The whole Chappelle thing for me is a nothing burger blown up by silly people who are neither same left or right. It's like when Andy Gray got sacked at sky, really, was what he said that bad?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
No, I didn't see them. The whole Chappelle thing for me is a nothing burger blown up by silly people who are neither same left or right. It's like when Andy Gray got sacked at sky, really, was what he said that bad?

He's a provacateur comedian. His whole shtick is being "that bad". 🙂

Originally posted by cdtm
He's a provacateur comedian. His whole shtick is being "that bad". 🙂
Nah, he's a comedian. We have many much more offensive. Look up Roy "Chubby" Brown. Who is a cvnt.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
No, I didn't see them. The whole Chappelle thing for me is a nothing burger blown up by silly people who are neither same left or right. It's like when Andy Gray got sacked at sky, really, was what he said that bad?

I'd forgotten about that. ****ing hell. And then him and whatisname, the hairy guy, went and got massive paychecks from BEIN or one of those sports channels.

https://www-tomsguide-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.tomsguide.com/amp/opinion/time-to-kill-mcu?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16368843145591&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tomsguide.com%2Fopinion%2Ftime-to-kill-mcu

"If I wanted an ending, I’d simply have to pick a stopping point myself."

That's why Infinity War was the ending for me. Endgame was a fu#king mess, so in my mind it doesn't exist.

Title should be changed to "The MCU has too much flatulence".

All these arguments against the MCU were the same ones that came up after 1977, when Star Wars forever changed the movie business and made Fantasy & Science Fiction movies the top grossing genre ever since. Other filmmakers who didn't make genre films were complaining about Star Wars' influence over culture, but to no avail. Ultimately, it's always the popular audience that decides.

The MCU has changed the movie business too, and other studios are just following their franchise recipe. Its just that the comics are being shown as a weaker form of storytelling compared to the grandeur of live action production. We just didn't see it when comics were virtually all we had to follow the Marvel or DC Universe. Now, we have better options.

^ I agreed with all of that until you said that comics are a lesser artform than movies. I mean, artistically, Watchmen or Maus are still almost objectively more profound than any superhero movie could ever be.

And honestly, there are many comics version of Marvel stories that are imo more fun than what the movies did.