Originally posted by ilikecomicsFirst off all critical race theory is just semantic argument conservatives want to keep having but they are the only ones who really cares about it. It's the new boogeyman word for them.
What is critical race theory ?
When all people actually want to do is make sure history is being taught accurately which includes how race was involved ie George Washington owned slaves. Many founding fathers did. You can call it what you want but that's nothing worth the amount of hassle conservatives keep trying to make it.
Originally posted by NewjakBingo.
First off all critical race theory is just semantic argument conservatives want to keep having but they are the only ones who really cares about it. It's the new boogeyman word for them.When all people actually want to do is make sure history is being taught accurately which includes how race was involved ie George Washington owned slaves. Many founding fathers did. You can call it what you want but that's nothing worth the amount of hassle conservatives keep trying to make it.
Conservatives keep making it a thing because "X" amount of their base buy into the lies that kindergartners are being taught "White people are bad!" across schools in America as standard school decorum and this is what CRT is. It's not and it isn't of course.
Originally posted by Newjak
First off all critical race theory is just semantic argument conservatives want to keep having but they are the only ones who really cares about it. It's the new boogeyman word for them.When all people actually want to do is make sure history is being taught accurately which includes how race was involved ie George Washington owned slaves. Many founding fathers did. You can call it what you want but that's nothing worth the amount of hassle conservatives keep trying to make it.
Originally posted by Robtard
Bingo.Conservatives keep making it a thing because "X" amount of their base buy into the lies that kindergartners are being taught "White people are bad!" across schools in America as standard school decorum and this is what CRT is. It's not and it isn't of course.
Ziggy will ask again next week.
Originally posted by Newjak
First off all critical race theory is just semantic argument conservatives want to keep having but they are the only ones who really cares about it. It's the new boogeyman word for them.When all people actually want to do is make sure history is being taught accurately which includes how race was involved ie George Washington owned slaves. Many founding fathers did. You can call it what you want but that's nothing worth the amount of hassle conservatives keep trying to make it.
No, critical theories exist. Deconstructionist thinkers like Derrida and Foucault contributed to them as well as the Frankfurt school, which is a colloquialism for a loose association of thinkers that sought to undo the enlightenment. The Frankfurt school includes people like habermas, horkheimer, adorno, Marcuse, among others.
Marcuse's idea were one of the main ideological pillars of the 60s new left movement.
If they were trying to teach more accurate history, it would still be history. This isn't that.
https://newdiscourses.com/2021/12/five-key-points-to-understand-about-critical-race-theory/
This is a video describing the problem with critical theories. I highly recommend watching to understand the other side of the argument for just jump around the site.
I'll know if you made an effort to understand if you can argue my position just as good as I can.
Originally posted by ilikecomicsdurmask
No, critical theories exist. Deconstructionist thinkers like Derrida and Foucault contributed to them as well as the Frankfurt school, which is a colloquialism for a loose association of thinkers that sought to undo the enlightenment. The Frankfurt school includes people like habermas, horkheimer, adorno, Marcuse, among others.Marcuse's idea were one of the main ideological pillars of the 60s new left movement.
If they were trying to teach more accurate history, it would still be history. This isn't that.
https://newdiscourses.com/2021/12/five-key-points-to-understand-about-critical-race-theory/
This is a video describing the problem with critical theories. I highly recommend watching to understand the other side of the argument for just jump around the site.
I'll know if you made an effort to understand if you can argue my position just as good as I can.
Originally posted by ilikecomicsYeah Critical Race Theory exists but conservatives look at it as A) a bad thing B) that is being put into everything.
No, critical theories exist. Deconstructionist thinkers like Derrida and Foucault contributed to them as well as the Frankfurt school, which is a colloquialism for a loose association of thinkers that sought to undo the enlightenment. The Frankfurt school includes people like habermas, horkheimer, adorno, Marcuse, among others.Marcuse's idea were one of the main ideological pillars of the 60s new left movement.
If they were trying to teach more accurate history, it would still be history. This isn't that.
https://newdiscourses.com/2021/12/five-key-points-to-understand-about-critical-race-theory/
This is a video describing the problem with critical theories. I highly recommend watching to understand the other side of the argument for just jump around the site.
I'll know if you made an effort to understand if you can argue my position just as good as I can.
Not everything is CRT. Heck I doubt have the people using it even know what it is or the fact not everything that is about making history more accurately portrayed is CRT.
And you did the thing I was trying to talk about which is turn this into a semantic argument over what CRT is and why it's bad.
So is teaching that the Founding Fathers owned slaves CRT and is it bad? Is teaching about the race based home lender issues that caused minority families to be denied houses CRT and is it wrong do so?
Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah Critical Race Theory exists but conservatives look at it as A) a bad thing B) that is being put into everything.Not everything is CRT. Heck I doubt have the people using it even know what it is or the fact not everything that is about making history more accurately portrayed is CRT.
And you did the thing I was trying to talk about which is turn this into a semantic argument over what CRT is and why it's bad.
So is teaching that the Founding Fathers owned slaves CRT and is it bad? Is teaching about the race based home lender issues that caused minority families to be denied houses CRT and is it wrong do so?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory
Read this.
CRT is a subset of this.
Originally posted by ilikecomics
His choice was to vote for Trump, how is he not owning that ?
I literally said why. Repeat: Because he blames the Left in how he voted instead of just saying he's voted for Trump because (he's a Trumper) of his own volition.
It's a classic "not my fault, mother, Timmy made me do it!". Coward's tactic.
Originally posted by Robtard
I literally said why. Repeat: Because he blames the Left in how he voted instead of just saying he's voted for Trump because (he's a Trumper) of his own volition.It's a classic "not my fault, mother, Timmy made me do it!". Coward's tactic.
I think he was more so saying the left disappointed and left him without a political home. Wouldn't it be more disingenuous to not agree with modern leftism and pretend that he did, in order to keep getting grant money ?