Twilight Vampires (all) Vs Remo Williams (Comics / Novels)

As the Reigning Master of Sinanju he has amassed a plethora of feats, and I will also mention Chiun's feats because Remo has since surpassed him.

For evidence of that:

In Look Into My Eyes we see Remo Williams defeat Chiun in a single move.

In Father to Son he becomes the Reigning Master of Sinanju. Chiun assumes the title of Great Teacher.

Now since that's been established I will begin.

Starting with explosions and bullets?

Both Chiun and Remo are able to outrun a large explosion that destroyed a hillside on a mountain Quicksilver style, and the explosion is frozen in time compared to them. Remo again is shown to be much faster than Chiun. While Chiun could escape? Remo had already been long gone by the time he did that. This to the point that Chiun had thought that Remo had been caught in the explosion.

Taken from Air Raid.

In Prophet of Doom we see Remo Williams move so fast that he can create whirlwinds of compressed air that can intercept and deflect bullets.

In 100 Proof we see Chiun treat reacting to bullets as a trivial thing. He is able to effortlessly flick seven bullets out of the air at the same time, and use said seven bullets to flick another seven bullets out of the air that were heading towards Stone (Remo's son). As I said before your average Master of Sinanju is basically Quicksilver. And even bullets are basically stuck in a time-stop when compared to them.

In regards to electricity and lightning bolts?

In High Priestess we see Remo Williams punch somebody out of the way of a lightning bolt. Specifically within a millionth of a second. As microsecond is not used, and it specifies a millionth of a second it will be hard to argue it is narrative hyperbole or the writer not knowing what a microsecond is.

Taken from The Final Crusade.

Chiun is able to move faster than the electricital signal in a wire. After a detonator was used by accident. Chiun explains in detail how he was actually moving faster than the electrical signal. In everyday electrical and electronic devices? Their signals on average travel 50% to 99% the speed of light as electromagnetic waves.

Now moving to radiation, and light.

Taken from Ground Zero.

Remo Williams can run circles around neutrons from a neutron bomb after it went off, and maintains a safe distance from the expanding radiation field. For reference neutrons move in the realm of 20,000 kilometers per second at bare minimum for a rating of MeV 2. From a neutron bomb they would actually be a lot faster than that. Since they are close to 14 MeV. Which means they're more along the lines of moving at 50,000 kilometers per second. Remo can comfortably keep out of their reach when they're shooting towards him.

In Time-Trial he fights a bunch of natives who discovered a bunch of laser rifles. Which were heavily implied to have come from an alien civilization. These are technologically based weapons. So, you can't argue that it is magical light either.

After getting surrounded by them he easily dodges all the lasers they fire at him. After the lasers are already in midair.

They match the sort of laser weaponry currently being designed by the military.

The lasers are specifically described to fire light at people, and are completely silent. Also, one stray shot destroys a cloud in the sky.

Remo William's best speed feat comes from fighting people who use the Krahseevah's vibration suit technology. Early on in the series Remo had difficulty dealing with it but as of recent he can match and cancel out the vibrations. What's impressive about it is that just like The Flash? The Krahseevah could vibrate through matter.

It does this by oscillating trillions of times per millisecond.

Taken from Blue Smoke and Mirrors.

This isn't narrative hyperbole as it is being described to us by someone going over the specifications of it, and not the narrator. Besides that, no amount of conventional speed allows you to phase through solid objects. So, I think it's fair to assume this is FTL. Even if you assume it only moves an inch per vibration for example? You're still looking at 84,725 c. Almost 85,000 times the speed of light.

The feat in question happens in Continental Divide.

Here it is:

While earlier in the series he couldn't counter the phasing like he could in Continental Divide. He could still react quickly enough to decapitate people who used the vibration suit to travel through telephone lines. Which again should be somewhere in the realm of 50% to 99% the speed of light.

Taken from Engines of Destruction.

I think I discussed enough about how fast they are. Now let's look into how strong they are.

Early on both Chiun and Remo are able to lift the monuments on Mount Rushmore, and keep them from falling down. You are looking at something within the realm of over 4000 metric tons.

Taken from The Destroyer #7.

As early on as the fifth book Dr. Quake? We see a scientist develop a water-jet powerful enough to stop an earth-quake. Conversely, it can also be used to cause earthquakes. Remo is able to wrestle against the pressure of this water-jet, and redirects it in order to kill Dr. Quake's daughters. Who were planning on causing another earth-quake. It was powerful enough to destroy the San Andreas fault line, and sink the entirety of California into the ocean (if only).

Later on in the same book we see Chiun deal with an even bigger water-jet. Which again was going to destroy the fault line. Which had absorbed all of the vibrations in California. He effortlessly destroys it, and the resulting shock-wave is felt across California as he "returns all of its vibrations."

Taken from The Destroyer #9

Remo Williams can survive a direct hit from the water-jet, and Chiun can redirect it with his bare hand.

The twins return after their "death" in Dr. Quake. They helped a crazed preacher almost destroy the planet by blowing it up with a series of bombs placed around the globe.

Taken from Bully Pulpit.

Remo Williams survives being caught in the explosion of one, and is hit by the pressure waves.

Another one of the bombs going off shakes the entirety of the nearby Channel Islands. The Channel Islands are 78 square kilometers of land, and they were nowhere near the epicenter of this bomb.

Taken from Next of Kin.

The first appearance of The Dutchman. Known as Jeremiah Purcell. He was a powerful psychic with a varied amount of psionic abilities who was taken in by Nuihc. Nuihc being Chiun's first disciple, and nephew. The Dutchman was taught sinanju by Nuihc, and combined it with his own natural psychic abilities. Remo Williams is able to endure his psychic attacks in their first encounter, and defeat him. Then The Dutchman disintegrated Nuihc's castle.

Next feats require some context. Remo Williams is able to overpower the psychokinesis of The Dutchmen on two occasions. Also known as Jeremiah Purcell. In the first instance The Dutchman was powerful enough to destroy mountains with his psychokinesis. In the second instance The Dutchman was so powerful he was going to destroy the planet Venus, and nearly succeeded before Remo Williams stopped him. Chiun also notes that he would have gone on to destroy every planet and star before destroying Earth.

Taken from The Master's Challenge.

The Dutchman destroying a mountain. It's blown to smithereens, and pieces of it fly into the air.

Taken from The Line of Succession.

Earlier in the book it's established that Remo Williams has since surpassed The Dutchman. Remo had another articulation with Jeremiah when he was interrogating him on the location of his daughter Freya. It's established that not only is Jeremiah's sinanju useless against Remo but so is the beast. The beast is the part of him which represents his psychic abilities. So, both his abilities as a practitioner of sinanju and his psychic powers granted to him by the beast were useless against an enraged Remo.

As for proof that The Beast represents his psychic powers? It's noted as such earlier in the same book. When it blows up a doe out of jealousy. And as the earlier instance makes clear even it is powerless against Remo.

In the same book we also see The Dutchman is powerful enough to effect 334 different people with his illusions.

The Dutchman goes completely nuts later, and tries to destroy the planet Venus. Before he can destroy the planet Remo Williams defeats him.

Remo Williams himself is the reincarnation of Shiva. The literal Hindu God. He can channel Shiva via a mantra, or even transform into Shiva. As Shiva he's powerful enough to begin the Tandava, and destroy and recreate the universe.

Shiva also has dominion over the Void, and the afterlife in general. He usually resides somewhere in the center of the universe beyond the hearing of every other being in the universe, but Chiun was able to find and communicate with him via telepathy.

Remo Williams channeling Shiva early on in his career.

Taken from The Destroyer #1.

Taken from Prophet of Doom.

Basically, the Pythia prevents Remo from returning to his body. He holds his own against it. Apollo steps in but then that's when Shiva appears, and gives him a taste of his lingham. Also, during the fight Remo generates energies equivalent to a supernova against the Pythia. It notes that this wasn't visible externally but that's because the fight was actually happening in another dimension. As Remo's soul struggled to get back to his body.

In Mother Mine. Another book of Legacy. we learn more about Shiva, and how he has complete dominion over life, time, space, and the fabric of existence. He can also instantly kill people by snapping their "red threads" which connect them to the source of life itself. AKA, Shiva.

In the next book Laughing Matter. Freya encounters Shiva in an out of body experience, and Shiva twirls some stars around her. Before giving her visions of the past and future.

Now on to discussing techniques. Sinanju has a wide variety of instant kill techniques that ignore conventional durability.

There are death grips. Which hyper-accelerate the rigormortis process.

Taken from The Final Crusade.

Techniques that involve cellular manipulation. Remo Williams himself has employed something that can destroy all of the mitochondria in a person's cells with a poke.

Taken from Coin of the Realm.

He can stop a person's heart from beating or induce violent heart attacks.

Taken from Bully Pulpit.

Remo Williams can also fry all of a person's nerves in their brain by simply touching their temples. Instantly killing them.

A master of sinanju can sense every kind of energy in the universe, and they become one with it via ki-ai or the spirit breath. They basically can't run out of stamina since they can draw on more energy from the universe with their breathing techniques. And even then Chiun himself could go without oxygen for an excess of seven hours when he was only ten years old.

Taken from Sweet Dreams.

They also have complete control over their bodies.

Remo can constrict and dilate his pupils at will. He can raise or lower his body temperature. He also has control over his heart, and can raise or lower his heart-rate without moving. Anywhere between 4 to 108 beats per minute.

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There are pressure points that allow Remo to erase someone's memories.

Taken from Dead Reckoning. Another example of the Emptying Basin technique in action.

Taken from The Last Dragon.

Chiun knocks out an Apatosaurus by realigning its spine.

Also from The Last Dragon.

Chiun and Remo can regulate their body temperate without needing to sweat, and can cool their bodies in extreme heat just by focusing. They don't sweat unless they choose to.

Taken from Spoils of War.

Chiun and Remo can communicate with each other telepathically. Anyway, Chiun guides him and Remo is able to expel a deadly poison from his body.

Taken from In Enemy Hands.

Also, besides telepathy practitioners of sinanju have some measure of telekinesis.

Taken from Feast or Famine.

There is also a technique known as Illuminating the Shadow that allows a master of sinanju to track down a target, and learn more about it through prophetic visions.

Taken from Child's Play.

Remo Williams knows Fallen Petal. Which allows him to reprogram someone, and change their personality.

In Timber Line we see Remo walk on water.

In Child's Play we see him walk up walls.

Taken from The End of the World.

Remo Williams can also fly with the technique known as Flying Hawk.

The same book, The End of the World, has Remo grant Chiun the ability to transmute abstract concepts like death or gods representing the idea of death into marble statues. Through the use of The Flapping Duck technique.

Taken from The Seventh Stone.

Also, more on the oneness with the universe sinanju masters have. They can manipulate atoms and molecules. In such a way that they can phase through matter, and make it magically disappear. Basically, think Kitty Pryde. Here Remo uses it to phase through matter.

Taken from Look Into My Eyes.

Remo can also use it to transmute matter into vapor.

Taken from Market Force.

Remo can make use of this to change the appearance of others. He made somebody look like a Picasso painting. Moving one of his eyes to his forehead. His nose down to his chin, and moved both of his ears. As well as his other eye over onto where his mouth was.

Also from the same book he turned somebody inside out, and pulled out all of his insides.

Taken from Monumental Terror.

Chiun stops two of Remo's lovers from killing each other in jealousy by turning them intangible like ghosts.

Even amateurs, like Stone who is Remo's son, is able to do things like eject a person's soul directly into the Void.

Taken from Overload.

Speaking of Stone though. Despite being an amateur he already knows how to banish people's souls into the Void by punching them really fast and hard. Before malevolent spirits proceed to drag them down into hell. That's right even people who only know the basics of Sinanju can pummel people so hard their soul gets ejected into another dimension.

Taken from Overload.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Someone is incorrect here.

It would be you, and yourself. Imagine White Knighting sparkly vampires this hard. That you unironically think they can beat the incarnation of a Hindu god.

😂

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
😂

In before you go running to the moderators like a little girl, and not even address a single point of contention. After all that bluster and bravado over at ComicVine.

I'll just read what Atem wrote 😂

https://onelastforum.com/threads/the-destroyer-discussion-and-analysis.146/

All copy/pasted. I am not even on Comicvine, lmao. But god bless you.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'll just read what Atem wrote 😂

https://onelastforum.com/threads/the-destroyer-discussion-and-analysis.146/

All copy/pasted. I am not even on Comicvine, lmao. But god bless you.

I'm literally Atem. And you most certainly were, and even admitted to it. Same thread. Same name. And you got banned for patting yourself on the back with dupes.

After fabricating Word of God, and impersonating the writer of Legacy. Which brings me back to how desperate you are for Twilight to be even remotely relevant in 2022.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/twilight-vampires-all-vs-remo-williams-comics-nove-2248562/

Lmao did you just type paragraphs against yourself??? That's not me lmao. How bored must you be?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Over the years on this and other forums I've made a variety of threads on Remo. It really depends where in his story you pick up, whether he would lose or not. By the time he is running around explosions. Moving many times faster than the speed of light around radiation ejecting God's from his mind by channeling Shiva, tanking tectonic plate moving blasts etc, he would wtf own Twishite, but by then he'd wtf own most characters. He and Goku are very similar in the story of their power progression. In fact I believe Remo as much as the Monkey King is an influence on DBZ. Remo is still far more fun and if you don't mind Fumanchu racial stereotyping, a helluva a lot of fun. Remember this is a fifty year old series and like with Perry Rhodan it has to be viewed through a lens of that time.

I wouldn't take this thread seriously at all. It's Dark Saint being sour over the fact Remo William would fold them like a pretzel. After getting beat on by everybody from ComicVine. I have seen some brutal gang bangs before but that took the cake. You could be forgiven for thinking at least one of them was Fleece Johnson.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lmao did you just type paragraphs against yourself??? That's not me lmao. How bored must you be?

It is literally you. You regurgitated what you said word-for-word in other threads that Northstrider was lurking. Have the same avatar except inverted upside. And immediately made a dupe here, and a copy of that thread.

You are very disturbed, lol. I don't have, and never have, had any account on Comicvine or any other forum lol.