Originally posted by Bashar Teg
durmask spending your weekend dutifully gaslighting strangers for putin on a dead movie forum? you must be one of those stable genius 4d chess masters, sharpening your skills. totally normal
No, I come here to spitball.
Do you think color revolutions don't exist ? The CIA has toppled 72 governments, mostly democratically elected ones.
I see you're still a boring sophist.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
durmask spending your weekend dutifully gaslighting strangers for putin on a dead movie forum? you must be one of those stable genius 4d chess masters, sharpening your skills. totally normal
For not being fascists, they sure spend a lot of time carrying water for fascists. Weird.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
For not being fascists, they sure spend a lot of time carrying water for fascists. Weird.
Actually the principle is that interventionism is evil, which youd think people who are against the evils of colonialism would agree with.
I don't care how awful a state is being to it's people, it's not America's job to police the world.
http://www.nypress.com/news/fdr-knew-pearl-harbor-was-coming-EBNP1020010614306149999
This article talks about how FDR knew pearl harbor was going to happen a week in advanced.
Re: Prediction
Originally posted by ilikecomics
America is going to stage a false flag in Ukraine, then blame Russia, to gain popular consent in America to attack Russia.Similar to the manufactured consent used to legitimize the war on terror.
America doesn't want a war with Russia and Russia doesn't want a war with America, it's not economical for either party.
Tell me, when there's no America/Russia war and your prediction ends up being wrong, what will you pivot to?
Re: Re: Prediction
Originally posted by Robtard
America doesn't want a war with Russia and Russia doesn't want a war with America, it's not economical for either party.Tell me, when there's no America/Russia war and your prediction ends up being wrong, what will you pivot to?
As Randolph borne said "war is the health of the state."
Of course it isn't economical for people who earn their wealth and wish to exchange it with others, who also earned it.
Why do you think the American empire has soldiers stationed in over 100 countries ?
Imagine if China had a military camp, in the middle of Ohio, where that practice war games... That's what the u.s. does.
You can look into the origins of American empire building, it hit it's acceleration during the Wilson administration, because Wilson wanted to make the world safe for democracy.
Russia on the other hand doesn't want war, but they are sick of living in a unipolar world where America in like a kid with a magnifying glass torturing the ants or the world.
That's not exactly what you said though, you claimed America would stage a false flag attack in Ukraine to them use as an excuse to attack Russia. One would happen so then the other can.
Even IF (big if) there is an attack in the Ukraine to begin with, whose to say it isn't the obvious aggressor, Russia? Kinda weird for you to outright dismiss Russia attacking Ukraine, when they're the ones moving troops and making aggressive gestures towards Ukraine.
As always, your stanning for Putin is both ridiculous and amusing.
Originally posted by Robtard
That's not exactly what you said though, you claimed America would stage a false flag attack in Ukraine to them use as an excuse to attack Russia. One would happen so then the other can.Even IF (big if) there is an attack in the Ukraine to begin with, whose to say it isn't the obvious aggressor, Russia? Kinda weird for you to outright dismiss Russia attacking Ukraine, when they're the ones moving troops and making aggressive gestures towards Ukraine.
As always, your stanning for Putin is both ridiculous and amusing.
That's because the leader of Ukraine is u.s. friendly and NATO is encroaching on Warsaw pact soil, which is said it wouldn't.
The false flag is the obvious go to because people like you, with your opinion, exist.
You won't even entertain the idea that america would do a false flag, when America has engaged in multiple false flags.
And even if Russia attacked Ukraine, it's none of America's business.
The same way Russia doesn't attack us for massively influencing the actions of other countries.
Re: Prediction
Originally posted by ilikecomicsThe neoliberal warhawks in Washington would be down for this. Already they're enticing the public to look at China with fear and hatred to sell them a potential conflict. Toss in the old Russian bogeyman and you got yourself a bona fide new Axis of Evil.
America is going to stage a false flag in Ukraine, then blame Russia, to gain popular consent in America to attack Russia.Similar to the manufactured consent used to legitimize the war on terror.
America is pathologically addicted to war and the revenue it generates the MI Complex. Yay capitalism. Woo. At least for all the war it does Americans get to have the best social security, healthcare, public education, food security, and access to affordable housing. Greatest country in the world.
Re: Re: Prediction
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
The neoliberal warhawks in Washington would be down for this. Already they're enticing the public to look at China with fear and hatred to sell them a potential conflict. Toss in the old Russian bogeyman and you got yourself a bona fide new Axis of Evil.America is pathologically addicted to war and the revenue it generates the MI Complex. Yay capitalism. Woo. At least for all the war it does Americans get to have the best social security, healthcare, public education, food security, and access to affordable housing. Greatest country in the world.
Generating profit through war is antithetical to the definition of capitalism, but everything else you got spot on.
Re: Re: Re: Prediction
Originally posted by ilikecomicsFrankly, the capitalists don't care about our definitions. A profit generated through conflict is as good as profit generated through fossil fuel extraction. The common denominator is the owners reaping grossly disproportionate profits to the workers who make their business function. If the business is developing and manufacturing chassis for a new armoured vehicle that you convinced Congress is needed for traversing Mali, or integrated circuits for the Hercules fleets, then you will be delighted that public funds are spent on your enterprise. And you will not proportion those profits to the labourers in your plants, the drivers of your transport trucks, or the clerks in your accounting dept. Instead you'll pay them a meager 'minimum wage' that you despise, because you'd get more profits if you were allowed to pay your workers less.
Generating profit through war is antithetical to the definition of capitalism, but everything else you got spot on.
The owner profited immensely, his workers aren't entitled to vacation days, and some foreigners will probably be paid slave wages to dangerously extract the rare earth minerals needed for your technologically sophisticated war materiel. And the multinational that owns the company extracting the minerals will not re-invest their profits into the local African or South American communities that they're taking the resources out of.
One or another, a very few at the top get rich while an increasing level of exploitation emerges the further down the ladder you go. It's the end result of an economic system that prioritizes profits for the owners over the well being of others, and lambasts wealth sharing as "evil socialism" all while hoarding as much they can to themselves. That's the reality of capitalism, "definition" be damned.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Prediction
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Frankly, the capitalists don't care about our definitions. A profit generated through conflict is as good as profit generated through fossil fuel extraction. The common denominator is the owners reaping grossly disproportionate profits to the workers who make their business function. If the business is developing and manufacturing chassis for a new armoured vehicle that you convinced Congress is needed for traversing Mali, or integrated circuits for the Hercules fleets, then you will be delighted that public funds are spent on your enterprise. And you will not proportion those profits to the labourers in your plants, the drivers of your transport trucks, or the clerks in your accounting dept. Instead you'll pay them a meager 'minimum wage' that you despise, because you'd get more profits if you were allowed to pay your workers less.The owner profited immensely, his workers aren't entitled to vacation days, and some foreigners will probably be paid slave wages to dangerously extract the rare earth minerals needed for your technologically sophisticated war materiel. And the multinational that owns the company extracting the minerals will not re-invest their profits into the local African or South American communities that they're taking the resources out of.
One or another, a very few at the top get rich while an increasing level of exploitation emerges the further down the ladder you go. It's the end result of an economic system that prioritizes profits for the owners over the well being of others, and lambasts wealth sharing as "evil socialism" all while hoarding as much they can to themselves. That's the reality of capitalism, "definition" be damned.
Anyone using coercion is not practicing capitalism, period.