aquarian vs. darth vader

Started by DeadpoolXXX3 pages

aquarian vs. darth vader

the comic version of darth vader.

go!

Vader, easily.

Force Choke.

wouldn't his field negate force attacks though?

No, because it only negates powerful attacks.

Alfred or Jarvis could strangle him to death.

Steven Seagal would massacre an army of Wundarrs 👆

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Steven Seagal would massacre an army of Wundarrs 👆

Current, no less.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
wouldn't his field negate force attacks though?
The Force isn't some generic energy attack that is thrown at an opponent or w/e(unless you're using attacks like Force push, Force lightning, etc.) It is literally the energy field that surrounds/encompasses... Everything.

So all Vader has to do is constrict the Force around Aquarian's neck, and *poof*, he's strangled to death.

Originally posted by Galan007
The Force isn't some generic energy attack that is thrown at an opponent or w/e(unless you're using attacks like Force push, Force lightning, etc.) It is literally the energy field that surrounds/encompasses... Everything.

So all Vader has to do is constrict the Force around Aquarian's neck, and *poof*, he's strangled to death.

But that's what ki is.

DV can apparently use force choke from light-years away. Therefore it most likely an attack that does not travel through space but is instant. Could be wrong

On the other hand, the Ysalamiri are a proof that the Force can be nullified within a given region.

Originally posted by Magnon
On the other hand, the Ysalamiri are a proof that the Force can be nullified within a given region.

Yes, but by a totally different mechanism. The Aquarian's null field only negates energy above a certain level - not ALL heat is negated, otherwise he'd freeze; not all light, otherwise he'd be blind; not ALL sound, otherwise he'd be deaf etc etc.

So if he just stood there, Aunt May could walk up to him and burn him with a candle, but not a flamethrower (as an example; the energy level of a candle may well be too high). Penguin could walk up to him and strangle him, but would be unable to punch him. Think of the field as similar to Dune's Holtzman shields - to bypass it, you need to go slow on the attack.

Aquarian HAS been strangled before (and his field was still operative even when unconscious) so Vader doing a choke would be within reason, especially if Aquarian is just standing there.

A lightsabre would be useless, as would throwing things at him or force lightning, however.

Who says he'd be able to exert enough pressure to do more then annoy him? Those metal tentacles couldn't even maintain a grip. And it's not like a force choke is super casual to do, Vader seems to put a lot more focus behind it then say, Obi-Wan doing the old Jedi mind trick.

Originally posted by Galan007
The Force isn't some generic energy attack that is thrown at an opponent or w/e(unless you're using attacks like Force push, Force lightning, etc.) It is literally the energy field that surrounds/encompasses... Everything.

So all Vader has to do is constrict the Force around Aquarian's neck, and *poof*, he's strangled to death.

isn't chi very like the force? Isn't that where Lucy's got his idea for the force? 😖hifty: 🙂

Originally posted by cdtm
And it's not like a force choke is super casual to do, Vader seems to put a lot more focus behind it then say, Obi-Wan doing the old Jedi mind trick.
It's extremely casual for Vader to do. 😕

Originally posted by h1a8
DV can apparently use force choke from light-years away. Therefore it most likely an attack that does not travel through space but is instant. Could be wrong
You're not wrong.

When Vader uses the choke, he isn't sending a TK wave hurling at his opponent's neck or w/e. He is precisely manipulating/constricting the Force around their trachea.

Originally posted by Galan007
It's extremely casual for Vader to do. 😕

He almost always holds out his hand and visably puts deliberate effort into it.

Which implies it takes more force then a kitten could put out.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
isn't chi very like the force? Isn't that where Lucy's got his idea for the force? 😖hifty: 🙂

Similar, yes. Though there are many different beliefs of how qi/chi/ki works, exactly.

He was obviously also inspired by the Voice from Dune, too.

Originally posted by cdtm
He almost always holds out his hand and visably puts deliberate effort into it.

Which implies it takes more force then a kitten could put out.


Nope
https://ibb.co/QbCBk7K

Originally posted by cdtm
He almost always holds out his hand and visably puts deliberate effort into it.

Which implies it takes more force then a kitten could put out.

The hand gesture thing is primarily inserted for visual purposes -- so that we, the audience, know what ability he's using... He doesn't need to use hand gestures at all, though:
https://i.imgur.com/4pLDLqX.mp4

https://ibb.co/f1LdmgL
https://ibb.co/sjscLyS

That said, even if Vader *had* to use hand gestures to preform the choke, that certainly doesn't mean he's putting some great deal of effort into it:
https://ibb.co/XLqgj34

https://ibb.co/TbrYySR

https://ibb.co/wd3s8xx

https://ibb.co/khtd2Gd

...And loads of other examples. As abilities go, Vader's choke is about as casual as it gets.

Todd never clicks on KMC links, Galan.

Aikido hold worked fine on Wundarr, so it doesn't matter if Vader uses gestures or not.