Re: Obi Wan Kenobi and Vader duel in the Kenobi show

how did Obi Wan all of a sudden pick up his light saber skills in the last episode so quickly when he has been out if practice for so long ?

How did he defeat Vader so easily ?

Also does this change anything with regards to Obis wans power levels and his light saber skills level etc hence making him better then Darth Vader etc ?

It is possible when retards are doing the show.

Originally posted by ozz81
how did Obi Wan all of a sudden pick up his light saber skills in the last episode so quickly when he has been out if practice for so long ?

How did he defeat Vader so easily ?

Also does this change anything with regards to Obis wans power levels and his light saber skills level etc hence making him better then Darth Vader etc ?

It doesn't make any sense considering he hadn't held a lightsaber for 10 years, while Vader was hunting and fighting Jedi.

Kenobi outright ragdolling Vader was unexpected. It definitely elevates his level.

From what I'm hearing, Kenobi had this mental enlightened state or whatever with protecting Luke/Leia? Something to that effect.

So he was operating I guess similar with Kanan getting all those supposed moments in Rebels, which elevated him beyond his normal levels. But when those stopped, he wasn't doing anything near what those moments showed.

Brilliant show.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
From what I'm hearing, Kenobi had this mental enlightened state or whatever with protecting Luke/Leia? Something to that effect.

So he was operating I guess similar with Kanan getting all those supposed moments in Rebels, which elevated him beyond his normal levels. But when those stopped, he wasn't doing anything near what those moments showed.

He was just motivated, it's not like he received some kind of buff.

Originally posted by Psychotron
He was just motivated, it's not like he received some kind of buff.

Right, that could constitute as to why he was doing as well as he did, to push himself. That could grant him a buff.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Right, that could constitute as to why he was doing as well as he did, to push himself. That could grant him a buff.

Buffs are external. Kenobi was fighting at his best with no external help.

Kenobi wasn't buffed he is just that powerful. It's about time people accept it.

Originally posted by playa1258
Kenobi wasn't buffed he is just that powerful. It's about time people accept it.

https://youtu.be/8r1i4auQ3Do

actually this isnt a bad explanation as to why he lost and looked/appeared weak etc..

Actually i when looking at that duel i think Obi out smarted him to a certain extent . Obviously Obis was the master he will kind of knows his apprentices/anakins/Vaders weakness etc .. when he throws all the rocks on Vader made Vader weaker couldn’t breath well slowed him down etc , also when he destroys Vaders chest apparatus(making Vader weaker ) etc reminds me of Bain vs Batman in the movies when he out smarts him ie bit like a plot device ..
But yeah also Obi says a prayer before fighting Vader I think he mentions Jin’s name etc I’m guessing his spirit helped him ..
But yeah Obi destroying his vaders life support hence getting upper hand fighting smartly and sort of augmenting his force powers when thinking of leila etc

Also Sids comment to vader at the end pretty much explains it : he says that his feelings for Obi made him weaker hence losing ...and then vader states that he doesnt care about Obi anymore abandoning the search on him etc..

But all in all i dont think Obi is more powerful then vader(sabers and force): because then Sidious will be trying to hunt for him and Sids as we know doesnt really care or give a damn about Obi etc.. obviously hes more concerned and interested in Luke and others etc...

Originally posted by ozz81
Also Sids comment to vader at the end pretty much explains it : he says that his feelings for Obi made him weaker hence losing ...and then vader states that he doesnt care about Obi anymore abandoning the search on him etc..

That’s not to say Obi Wan wasn’t insanely powerful here though. Thinking about the twins gave him extra motivation and determination, it’s like he gets a boost in the force when protecting the twins. Just like when he killed Maul.

Kenobi is still below prime Vader, but above his ROTS self. I think he could beat ROTS Dooku now.

Yeah bro. Obi-Wan is totally below a guy he literally bullied for half the fight. Come on.

Originally posted by xPRIMEx
Kenobi is still below prime Vader, but above his ROTS self. I think he could beat ROTS Dooku now.

Obi-Wan in any case shouldn't beat Vader, except with big external help or because of the will of the force. But this Obi-Wan didn't train at all, was in worst condition ever, while Vader was destroying everything in his path. Obi-Wan shouldn't stand a chance, but he ragdolled him. And the worst is this is canon, idiots making something because of rights and turn it into canon. Idiots decide what is canon, not in my book. This is just typicial modern age show and doing with Obi-Wan what they did with new worst movies.

Well, it's dumb but it happened. We just have to accept that Obi-Wan is apparently > Vader now. Of course, that makes you wonder why they needed Luke at all.

BTW, did anyone notice that Kenobi was physically pushing Vader back in saber locks? He staggered him a few times too. It's like this fight was written by someone, who had no idea who these characters were.

Well obviously not. Kenobi has never been about raw power but rather finesse and skill. Now he's putting Yoda to shame...

Originally posted by Psychotron
Yeah bro. Obi-Wan is totally below a guy he literally bullied for half the fight. Come on.