Abortion

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Would you argue that a baby is not human?

Would you argue that a fetus is not a baby?

Would you argue that aborting it kills it? (let's forget "murder" for a sec, as you are infantile, and get so hung up on the word)

So baby's are human, fetuses are babies, aborting a fetus kills it.....

Abortion kills babies.

(and a baby is still a "baby" in the womb,.... just with tissue around it....just in a different [B]environment....)

This will be proven, the laws will be changed, and stupid, ignorant young males with no interest in a woman's right to choose other than to argue and stir up crap with people who are older and wiser than them can find some other cause to champion that will make them feel important.

(while they sit at home on the computer that mommy and daddy bought for them, secretly thanking their lucky stars that they have mothers who cared enough to not be selfish and think about only her own life. As it is, I wouldn't be surprised if she regrets it sometimes,.. seeing as how you're such a pain.)

It's high time you "got out of here with that shit".

getout1 [/B]

Can you make a post without personal insults? Because it seems like you need them to carry your debate right about now.

That whole post was based on, as all your posts are, "The laws WILL", "This WILL be proven" etc. Not what factually is.

Guess what factually is? Abortion NOT being murder, and you've got a century of entrenched law to fight against, so I seriously hope you're coming with something better than your bible and your debate skills because it'll be another century before anybody takes you seriously.

You're entertaining though. I will permit you that one attribute.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You came to the wrong conclusion, first off.

Second, you go off on tangents and textual walkabouts with your posts, there's a lot of nice scenery on the way but they always arrive back at the same place. It's pointless. I'm sure we all know how it works, but the fact that it happens doesn't make it right.

-AC

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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So? It's still not murder, what's your problem with this? Like it or not, that's the way it is.

So you don't give a shit if some womans unborn baby is killed in her womb?

Show a little compassion, you cold hearted prick.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Can you make a post without personal insults?

Can you make a pst without being so high and mighty, Mr. I Know Everything?

No, I don't.

Show a little intelligence, knowledge and common sense, you overly oblivious, selfish and ironically heartless lady.

Originally posted by Makedde
Can you make a pst without being so high and mighty, Mr. I Know Everything?

I know murder is factually not connected to abortion, you fail to accept this. If that counts as everything, well thanks.

Thanks for labelling me that. I'm glad you have such a high opinion of me.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Can you make a post without personal insults? Because it seems like you need them to carry your debate right about now.

That whole post was based on, as all your posts are, "The laws WILL", "This WILL be proven" etc. Not what factually is.

Guess what factually is? Abortion NOT being murder, and you've got a century of entrenched law to fight against, so I seriously hope you're coming with something better than your bible and your debate skills because it'll be another century before anybody takes you seriously.

You're entertaining though. I will permit you that one attribute.

-AC

And you're a fool!

There are two sides to this issue.

1.) Women who want to have the right to end a pregnancy through abortion if they should choose to do so.

2.) People (not just Christian conservatives, as evidenced by Mak, a female lesbian, who I know isn't a Christian, and Shaky, a Buddhist) who believe that it is killing a baby, i.e. murder, when they have an abortion. Some of these people, (try to think outside these forums, or your own country) want the laws changed.

You say that we should leave the laws, and furthermore, that people like myself are wrong for putting our point of view in where it doesn't belong, and that I am arguing about something that has nothing to do with me.

Excuse me, but what the f*ck are you doing?

You aren't A). a woman fighting for her right to choose
B). opposed to it and want to change the law

By your logic, you should have your mouth shut, as 1.)you are defending people who niether need, nor want your help,....2.)you are trying to tell our side what we should and shouldn't be doing,....3.) you are not a member of either group...just an angry boy who likes to have stuff to argue about. (those women can fight for themselves.)

(I'm sure that you will argue this too, saying for some poppycock reason that the way you argue for women that have nothing to do with you is okay, but the way that I argue about the same women is wrong.)

So do what you want in here, .... but don't think that gives you even the slightest bit of authority to tell me or anyone else what to do, especially when your logic conveniently changes to fit your own point of view.

At least my side is consistent.

As for "fighting a century of entreched law" that is "factual".....

100 years means nothing. We had slaves in the 1600's,and they weren't free until 1864. or allowed to vote until 1964.

We started this democratic country in 1776, but women weren't allowed to vote in it until 1908.

That's history son.

I'm sure it will write off dipshits like you as being "archaic" and "mis-informed" one day, and my children and I will have a good chuckle at your expense. 🙂

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Can you make a post without personal insults?
-AC

is it comprehensible.....

Originally posted by sithsaber408
And you're a fool!

In reply to this: "Can you make a post without personal insults?" you could have just said "No". No need to go on the rag about it, miss.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
There are two sides to this issue.

1.) Women who want to have the right to end a pregnancy through abortion if they should choose to do so.

Do. DO have the right, the right you are trying to take away.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
2.) People (not just Christian conservatives, as evidenced by Mak, a female lesbian, who I know isn't a Christian, and Shaky, a Buddhist) who believe that it is killing a baby, i.e. murder, when they have an abortion. Some of these people, (try to think outside these forums, or your own country) want the laws changed.

It's factually not murder though. No opinion is going to make it so. If you believe it is murder, you are factually incorrect. No more debating need be done, you won't accept that you are wrong and the facts are on my side, so that's done and buried.

If the law is changed, we'll talk then. However, it's been fine for a hundred years or more, I can't see it changing worldwide or in my country.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
You say that we should leave the laws, and furthermore, that people like myself are wrong for putting our point of view in where it doesn't belong, and that I am arguing about something that has nothing to do with me.

You are.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Excuse me, but what the f*ck are you doing?

Defending the right that women can do what they want, when they want and how they want to do it, to their bodies.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
You aren't A). a woman fighting for her right to choose
B). opposed to it and want to change the law

I'm not "fighting", I'm defending the rights women have that YOU are trying to take away, because you're a religious nutcase who ironically ends up hindering rather than helping and using his religion, sadly, as a conduit to push his restricting and selfish beliefs.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
By your logic, you should have your mouth shut, as [B]1.)you are defending people who niether need, nor want your help,....2.)you are trying to tell our side what we should and shouldn't be doing,....3 you are not a member of either group...just an angry boy who likes to have stuff to argue about.[/b]

I'm not arguing for any specific person. I'm arguing that women have the right to do what they want. I'm not sticking my nose in, the very fact that you said what you just did, proves that you don't read anything I type. My main argument is that is IS NONE of my business, so therefore they can do what they want.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
(I'm sure that you will argue this too, saying for some poppycock reason that the way you argue for women that have nothing to do with you is okay, but the way that I argue about the same women is wrong.)

My whole argument from the start is that it's nothing to do with me or anyone, so let them do what they want. Not "They should do this."

Originally posted by sithsaber408
So do what you want in here, .... but don't think that gives you even the slightest bit of authority to tell me or anyone else what to do, especially when your logic conveniently changes to fit your own point of view.

My logic changes to fit my own point of view? Do you realise how much nonsense that sentence is?

Secondly, I'm not, but if you claim abortion is murder, you ARE wrong. Ability to accept that notwithstanding, you are wrong.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
At least my side is consistent.

Fluid shit still stinks and is classified as waste. So are your posts.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
As for "fighting a century of entreched law" that is "factual".....

No need for the ""'s, it is factual.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
100 years means nothing. We had slaves in the 1600's,and they weren't free until 1864. or allowed to vote until 1964.

Well then for your sake I hope you are right, because you're going to look mighty dumb...sorry, that's wrong, more dumb than you already do if the laws DON'T change.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
We started this democratic country in 1776, but women weren't allowed to vote in it until 1908.

Like I said, if the laws change worldwide and in my country (hahaha, right) then we'll talk.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
That's history son.

Was just about to say the same thing about your debate.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
I'm sure it will write off dipshits like you as being "archaic" and "mis-informed" one day, and my children and I will have a good chuckle at your expense. 🙂

Again "It will", "I will".

Change your title to KMC's clairvoyant. Is that allowed in the christian faith? Clairvoyance? I'd think so, considering the self-rightous christians can't see but two minutes infront of them, let alone the distant future.

-AC

This is still going?

YES, I BELIEVE IN ABORTION.

No, I don't think it's right.

BUT I BELIEVE IN IT.

Sorry and such.

I'm for abortion. Why? Because I think that sometimes, the life that may come out of a pregnancy may be worse off than none at all. Religiously, the fetus has no sin, so it's straight to Heaven for it.

What I don't understand is why some people look down on women who have abortions. They obviously know that it is difficult to do so, they themselves are the ones who create the social pressures to make abortion something to be frowned upon. If it is known that the child would die during birth, why don't they respect the fact that the mother has the courage to accept the responsibility of her actions in order to save her child from pain?

No, I'm not some emo kid that thinks that if life is tough that it should be ended, but I believe that if a woman is strong enough to make a decision on her own and accept whatever consequences may occur as a result, then she should have the choice to do so.

Originally posted by FeceMan
This is still going?

YES, I BELIEVE IN ABORTION.

No, I don't think it's right.

BUT I BELIEVE IN IT.

Sorry and such.

Nice to meet you, John Kerry.

Originally posted by powerfulone1987
please take a good long look at this statement. Please. If not for me, for yourself.

is it comprehensible.....

👆

Bullets, you're of the belief that rape pregnancy should still be left to happen, so I'm not too sure what validity you're hoping to contribute.

I'm aware a couple of you have a problem with me, but since KMC's own Anti-AC Spirit Squad is beginning to form, I'll ask you to keep it to my PM box before it even gets off the ground. Nice, thanks.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Bullets, you're of the belief that rape pregnancy should still be left to happen, so I'm not too sure what validity you're hoping to contribute.

I'm aware a couple of you have a problem with me, but since KMC's own Anti-AC Spirit Squad is beginning to form, I'll ask you to keep it to my PM box before it even gets off the ground. Nice, thanks.

-AC

Question for AC:

are they not allowed to disagree with you in public or point out the irony of some of your posts?

🙂

Ush disagrees, Shaky disagrees, have you seen me pop at them for disagreeing with me?

No, I haven't. I haven't even popped at YOU for disagreeing Whirly. Disagreeing isn't what I have a problem with, it's when certain people can't keep personal vendettas out of perfectly good threads and instead substitute a debate for an insult post or cheerleading purpose. As a self-proclaimed troll who enjoys insulting people, I don't expect you to understand, but as I've said, if you do have a problem I reply to every PM I get, so attack me there.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Bullets, you're of the belief that rape pregnancy should still be left to happen, so I'm not too sure what validity you're hoping to contribute.

I'm aware a couple of you have a problem with me, but since KMC's own Anti-AC Spirit Squad is beginning to form, I'll ask you to keep it to my PM box before it even gets off the ground. Nice, thanks.

-AC

I'm 100% pro-life. I don't know what else to say.

LOL, I'm not "Anti-AC", dawg. I admire you well-put posts and your relaxed saracm. I'm willing to bet money that in real life you're fukking hilarious when you're pissed. <---By pissed I mean angry, not drunk.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Ush disagrees, Shaky disagrees, have you seen me pop at them for disagreeing with me?

No, I haven't. I haven't even popped at YOU for disagreeing Whirly. Disagreeing isn't what I have a problem with, it's when certain people can't keep personal vendettas out of perfectly good threads and instead substitute a debate for an insult post or cheerleading purpose. As a self-proclaimed troll who enjoys insulting people, I don't expect you to understand, but as I've said, if you do have a problem I reply to every PM I get, so attack me there.

-AC

OK mate keep the toys in the pram, no trouble 😉

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

I'm not arguing for any specific person. I'm arguing that women have the right to do what they want. I'm not sticking my nose in, the very fact that you said what you just did, proves that you don't read anything I type. My main argument is that is IS NONE of my business, so therefore they can do what they want.

My whole argument from the start is that it's nothing to do with me or anyone, so let them do what they want. Not "They should do this."

Change your title to KMC's clairvoyant. Is that allowed in the christian faith? Clairvoyance? I'd think so, considering the self-rightous christians can't see but two minutes infront of them, let alone the distant future.

-AC

So we agree?

It's none of your business, and you are in here trying to prove older, smarter people like myself, Ush, Shaky, and Mak wrong just to get your jolly's?

People who know that laws are subjective, and while they personally may not want to change them, would not throw out my side's case until the point of life is truly determined.

I'm glad you see it that way. There are two sides... one is the woman's choice side, the other is my side.

Since you admit to not actually having any stake in either side, I can hope that you will go on silence now. (a vein hope, I'm sure)

What I'm looking towards is the distant future, where I don't have to think about 1/3rd of my generation already dead, not given any chance, because some chick got knocked up and then couldn't handle the responsibility.

(they tell us "You're man enough to stick it inside of me, but not man enough to care for what comes out?"...... that's a 2 way street, sister.)

And I will continue to look forward to that future with my Faith in my God,and with my Bible, which leads me there knowing 2 things:

1.) Murder is wrong

2.) Children are precious

It has said so for 2006 years, and another 5,000 B.C. (funny how our planets whole concept of time and history is based on Christ coming, but nobody believes he was who he said he was 😉 )

Seems you are the one stuck on keeping things the way they are "here and now".

Originally posted by sithsaber408
1.) Murder is wrong

2.) Children are precious

✅ No question!

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
✅ No question!

IS IT COMPREHENSIBLE.....