Abortion

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
1. Because it is way too sensitive an issue for me.

2.because if I were forced to vote on it, I would have to vote against abortion because I believe it to be morally wrong.

So, if morals are entirely subjective, and a ban would be in place for EVERYBODY, even those who do not share your morals, you have no choice to admit that a ban would be you forcing your beliefs, and you have.

Second, if it's too sensitive an issue, do you wanna tell us why you're even here moaning about people debating you? Don't get involved if you can't handle the heat.

There is a specific reason that pro-choicers do always win these debates, and it takes politicians in power to get pro-life things passed.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So, if morals are entirely subjective, and a ban would be in place for EVERYBODY, even those who do not share your morals, you have no choice to admit that a ban would be you forcing your beliefs, and you have.

Second, if it's too sensitive an issue, do you wanna tell us why you're even here moaning about people debating you? Don't get involved if you can't handle the heat.

There is a specific reason that pro-choicers do always win these debates, and it takes politicians in power to get pro-life things passed.

-AC

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yes. Point?

Point being obvious, question being; Why did it take you so long to admit it, when now you just say "Yes. Point?", hmm?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
All the bitching and moaning is being done by you. I state my views, and you ridicule me. Fair enough, but don't call me the omaner when it's the other way around.

No, you are moaning. You have a sickening victim complex. You come into a debate on a reasonably serious subject, with nothing but "I couldn't care less.", and apathy, then when your argument is shot down page after page, by person after person, you break out the violins and start calling us bullies, when you're just not good at debating, and won't accept it because you want to feel like you can.

If you don't care, if you couldn't care less, why are you here? Do you know that it's rude to act like you can just spout a view, in the GDF, and not have it questioned? You do not get to choose how you are replied to, and if you dislike vehement replies, perhaps you should cease holding ludicrous, hypocritical views, and accept when you've been proven wrong.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
This is why I am not a politician.

But you'd vote to allow them to do that if you had to, right? So are you just saying stuff because you don't care, or you don't know? Do you just want to be involved in a debate so desperately that you will say anything?

You're a very hypocritical, contradictory man, RJ.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Point being obvious, question being; Why did it take you so long to admit it, when now you just say "Yes. Point?", hmm?

No, you are moaning. You have a sickening victim complex. You come into a debate on a reasonably serious subject, with nothing but "I couldn't care less.", and apathy, then when your argument is shot down page after page, by person after person, you break out the violins and start calling us bullies, when you're just not good at debating, and won't accept it because you want to feel like you can.

But you'd vote to allow them to do that.

You're a very hypocritical, contradictory man, RJ.

-AC

Pro-abortion don't always win.What makes you say that?That is being so full of yourself so to say that.I mean come on.We have a Republican President at this moment and so far he been doing good for banning abortion one step at a time.
So maybe you guys are winning now but later on.It will be us who are winning!jm

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Because the more I thought about it, i realized it was true. You see, I have no problem posting rebuttals, which is more than I can say for some here.

So you posted for pages on end, telling us we weren't right in the face of fact, because you didn't bother to think? Then have the nerve to tell me I can't call you stupid or you do not deserve to be ridiculed?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
There is no moaning on my part, and there is no victim complex either. Did you see what happened when Bardock approached me like a gentleman, asking questions on my views? I gave him 100% honesty, and the answers were satisfactory. You also seem to point out all of my one liners here, while others go at it every day "without notice." This is not a victim complex, it's just an observation I have made. And when I questioned you on it before, YOU became the dodger.

I saw what happened when Bardock approached you in a way that was to your liking, because no other way than how RJ likes it, will get a reply.

You questioned me on it when Chillmeistergen did it and I answered you. Go back and read it. If you've asked questions regarding it since, I didn't see them, but my answer remains. If it's relevant and on topic, fine, if it's not? I say to them as I say to you.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And you are a know it all, whiny little brat.

I appreciate you thinking I know it all (Because I don't think it, and you say it.), but I'd rather be a whiny brat who can speak sense and hold a debate than a known APPARANTLY nothing who can not accept wrong doings and has a victim complex, martyr complex, and various other complexes. Once again, you focus your posts on me personally, because you cannot debate anything else.

-AC

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
Pro-abortion don't always win.What makes you say that?That is being so full of yourself so to say that.I mean come on.We have a Republican President at this moment and so far he been doing good for banning abortion one step at a time.
So maybe you guys are winning now but later on.It will be us who are winning!jm

In debates relying on logic they do.

And no, it won't be. You are a dying breed. Luckily.

Originally posted by Bardock42
In debates relying on logic they do.

And no, it won't be. You are a dying breed. Luckily.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I must admit that I see the prochoicers winning out in the end. If there was a vote to begin with.

Without vote, we are winning in Western Countries as well.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em.

Or, expeditiously arrive at the conclusion that lengthy factual diatribe will have a similar outcome to a terse insult; though lacking the latter's satisfaction quota.

Originally posted by Schecter
i wish you people would stop feeding the clowns. i mean, its cool to just insult them, and let them know that they are ****ing retarded. but you, ac, and others put SO MUCH ****ing energy into debating with them.
they are ignoring you.

You just took what I said and enshittened it, didn't you.

We are a dying breed?Who is going around killing other human beings?We are not.You are going to die out like the gays if you keep letting woman have abortions.
That is the most stupid thing I had heard all day!jm

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
1. Because it is way too sensitive an issue for me.

2.because if I were forced to vote on it, I would have to vote against abortion because I believe it to be morally wrong.

You can be personally against it and still not want to force your subjective morals on others.

I mean, you wouldn't really be changing your own stance on it. You would just be making sure that others can arrive at their own conclusions much like you have arrived at yours. Someday, I hope you can see this.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
You just took what I said and enshittened it, didn't you.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
We are a dying breed?Who is going around killing other human beings?We are not.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
You are going to die out like the gays if you keep letting woman have abortions.jm

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
We are a dying breed?Who is going around killing other human beings?We are not.You are going to die out like the gays if you keep letting woman have abortions.

That is the most stupid thing I had heard all day!jm

A nice touch- director's commentary at the end of your post

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
You just took what I said and enshittened it, didn't you.

no, bardock is in charge of all things fecal.

:edit: actually i simply unqueerified what you said

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
We are a dying breed?Who is going around killing other human beings?We are not.You are going to die out like the gays if you keep letting woman have abortions.
That is the most stupid thing I had heard all day!jm

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
We are a dying breed?Who is going around killing other human beings?We are not.You are going to die out like the gays if you keep letting woman have abortions.
That is the most stupid thing I had heard all day!jm

Are you deaf when it comes to your own voice?

Also, gays are not dying out (you idiot) they are still around as they were 2000 years ago. Why? Because they are not dying out (you idiot)

You on the other hand will die out as your opinion is idiotic and with science constantly evolving (like animals) the understanding will become so great that even as ignorant people as you will be unable to argue for such a piece of shit view as you have it.

Now go eat poison, God told me he wants you to.

I was saying that how can you say that pro-lifers are a dying breed when we are trying to save the human race not kill them off.
People who are having an abortions are kiling the human race by killing babies.If you want me to exclaim this clearer not sure how I can since I pretty much said it.JM

Originally posted by Schecter
no, bardock is in charge of all things fecal.

:edit: actually i simply unqueerified what you said

Whatever, son. You're one of those so straight he's queer straights.

Deep Souther. Banjos and spit for lube.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So you posted for pages on end, telling us we weren't right in the face of fact, because you didn't bother to think? Then have the nerve to tell me I can't call you stupid or you do not deserve to be ridiculed?

I saw what happened when Bardock approached you in a way that was to your liking, because no other way than how RJ likes it, will get a reply.

You questioned me on it when Chillmeistergen did it and I answered you. Go back and read it. If you've asked questions regarding it since, I didn't see them, but my answer remains. If it's relevant and on topic, fine, if it's not? I say to them as I say to you.

I appreciate you thinking I know it all (Because I don't think it, and you say it.), but I'd rather be a whiny brat who can speak sense and hold a debate than a known APPARANTLY nothing who can not accept wrong doings and has a victim complex, martyr complex, and various other complexes. Once again, you focus your posts on me personally, because you cannot debate anything else.

-AC

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
I was saying that how can you say that pro-lifers are a dying breed when we are trying to save the human race not kill them off.
People who are having an abortions are kiling the human race by killing babies.If you want me to exclaim this clearer not sure how I can since I pretty much said it.JM

The human race is not dying though, is it? Because we can produce more humans. We can kill off those we don't want (you) and still survive excellently.

Also:

Originally posted by Bardock42
Are you deaf when it comes to your own voice?

Also, gays are not dying out (you idiot) they are still around as they were 2000 years ago. Why? Because they are not dying out (you idiot)

You on the other hand will die out as your opinion is idiotic and with science constantly evolving (like animals) the understanding will become so great that even as ignorant people as you will be unable to argue for such a piece of shit view as you have it.

Now go eat poison, God told me he wants you to.