Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Because he is a jolly fellow, even if you don't believe in him.Nah, you know full well what I will say, so use your imagination. Apparently you have nothing better to do than try and start another bashfest. Well, Bluto, I aint biting.
Debate with me reasonably, and I will leave insults out for the next three posts. I promise.
Originally posted by Alpha Centaurisee? internet bullies. telling people how to post, where to go, while there are pages after pages of one liners here by several other members. why dont you tell them how to post or where to go?
And it seems you have nothing better to do than keep posting to make yourself feel like you're still a part of this debate and discussion.If you have no further contributions to make, leave the thread and let those WITH contributions do so.
-AC
again, preferred treatment. that, or you have a vendetta against me.
Originally posted by Bardock42
D-dude.Debate with me reasonably, and I will leave insults out for the next three posts. I promise.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
see? internet bullies. telling people how to post, where to go, while there are pages after pages of one liners here by several other members. why dont you tell them how to post or where to go?again, preferred treatment. that, or you have a vendetta against me.
He just wants to have you reply to his arguments.
Why don't you.
Me too, I gave you the chance, I will not insult you, we discuss this topic civilly and if I should insult you you can call me a hypocrite and liar happily ever after.
You said you wanted that. Civil debate. I offer it to you, just three posts each. Take it, if you arent full of shit.
I start it off. You get the last word. No insults. Try it this once. what's there to lose?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
see? internet bullies. telling people how to post, where to go, while there are pages after pages of one liners here by several other members. why dont you tell them how to post or where to go?again, preferred treatment. that, or you have a vendetta against me.
I have no vendetta against you, you aren't worthy of such focus, and I've said what I'm saying to you, to many others.
If you cannot handle the fact that your argument has been whooped, crushed and tossed in the garbage, if you will not admit where multiple people and posts have proven you wrong, and only serve to fill a productive (For better or worse.) thread with victim complex bs, then I think it would be more courteous of you to leave the thread.
There are people here, agree or disagree, that want to have a decent debate. Don't hang around being disruptive because you failed to do so yourself.
-AC
Originally posted by Bardock42Too many vultures, B. But, what the hell. ask me a question, and I will give you an honest answer.
He just wants to have you reply to his arguments.Why don't you.
Me too, I gave you the chance, I will not insult you, we discuss this topic civilly and if I should insult you you can call me a hypocrite and liar happily ever after.
You said you wanted that. Civil debate. I offer it to you, just three posts each. Take it, if you arent full of shit.
I start it off. You get the last word. No insults. Try it this once. what's there to lose?
you have two posts left. 😉
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Too many vultures, B. But, what the hell. ask me a question, and I will give you an honest answer.you have two posts left. 😉
Okay, one less than I thought, but here it goes:
I know your stance on abortion. That is of no interest of me in this case.
What I want to know, in all honesty, and I won't attack you for stating the truth...can you see that if you vote for abortion to be banned for everybody, you are forcing your opinion on them?
Just that.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Okay, one less than I thought, but here it goes:I know your stance on abortion. That is of no interest of me in this case.
What I want to know, in all honesty, and I won't attack you for stating the truth...can you see that if you vote for abortion to be banned for everybody, you are forcing your opinion on them?
Just that.
I don't know how much clearer I can be, B.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I already said this, yesterday. I also said that this I would not vote on the issue. Basically, I am not going out of my way to be a prolife activist. But I will be honest with you and say that I think abortion is wrong.I don't know how much clearer I can be, B.
Okay. So in conclusion.
You would not vote for abortion to be banned.
Aren't you factually pro-choice then. Just that you think that abortion is morally wrong?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Okay. So in conclusion.You would not vote for abortion to be banned.
Aren't you factually pro-choice then. Just that you think that abortion is morally wrong?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I wouldn't say that I am prochoice, but I see where you are coming from. So, I guess that since I would not vote lest I was forced, I cannot really be called a prolifer either.
Well....good.
Then we have no topic now.
Would you like to discuss another one related to Abortion?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I wouldn't say that I am prochoice, but I see where you are coming from. So, I guess that since I would not vote lest I was forced, I cannot really be called a prolifer either.
You don't like abortion, but not enough to act on its removal, and you've said you COULDN'T care less about the issue, really.
So wouldn't it be fair to deduce that you are actually pro-choice by way of apathy, but a pro-choicer who doesn't like abortion, and was only saying pro-life because he thought it was what he had to do? If you don't care what a woman does, then you obviously feel it's her choice, and since you'd not vote to ban abortion now, that would make you pro-choice.
Unless all this is simply because you rabidly want to not be called pro-choice.
-AC
I don't like abortion, it's yucky and often grossly abused. But there's no other option. Outlawing it would only hurt matters, by forcing women to go out of the country or into underground backalley clinics, where there would be no health or safety regulations. Plus the profits would go to criminals rather than the US Government and such. Really would only make matters much much worse.
AC, you need to have that abortion. I'm not ready to be a dad, I don't think you're ready to be a mom, either. Hurry up, stop waiting.
Originally posted by Ytse
Legislature doesn't force beliefs. It forces behavior.No, what I meant when I said it was confusing was that it was incoherent and arbitrary.
You're basically still calling it confusing.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Hey, I am all for being enlightened. YOUR posts have actually given me some good insight on this. I never claimed to be "correct", I just stated the way I feel about this issue. If people here get off on ridiculing me, so be it. It's like being back in high school, I must say, surrounded by bullies.
I must ask 2 questions though. You said you wouldn't vote at all if you could. Would that not make you pro-choice? I mean, you have to have SOME reason not to vote.
If forced to vote, why would you vote to ban it when you said you don't want to stick your beliefs onto someone else?
Just honest questions.
Originally posted by StyleTime
At the risk of going off into a whole other argument, I will leave this one alone. It looks like you want to debate something for a different thread. Don't get me wrong, it's not neccessarily a bad topic either.You're basically still calling it confusing.
Understood.
I must ask 2 questions though. You said you wouldn't vote at all if you could. Would that not make you pro-choice? I mean, you have to have SOME reason not to vote.
If forced to vote, why would you vote to [B]ban
it when you said you don't want to stick your beliefs onto someone else?Just honest questions. [/B]
2.because if I were forced to vote on it, I would have to vote against abortion because I believe it to be morally wrong.