Abortion

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
A special need child needs love and support just like a normal child does.

This is anencephaly:

It has an incidence of about 4000 per year.
Around 50% of non-aborted cases die during childbirth, the other half die during the perinatal period of a few days. There is no cure, there is no treatment other than palliative.
It can be diagnosed during gestation.
The improper formation of the cranium and subsequent lack of forebrain mean the fetus does not develop conscious faculties - sight, hearing, nociception, movement, memory - nothing.
When the fetus is diagnosed with anencephaly most women opt for termination.

Out of curiosity, who would make the judgment that in such a scenario the woman who opts for an abortion is "wrong?"

I would abort. Its that simple, not all pregnancies are meant to be full term.

Originally posted by Bardock42
No.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
you don't think it's a bit childish to get so worked up on a damn message board?

No, why. In that case I would have to think it is childish to get worked up about anything. Which I do to some extent. But if I can be annoyed by something someone in my class says, or on TV why not by something that is said to me on an Internet forum....by a person that is more present, that I probably spend more time with, that is more familiar to me than most people I know in real life?

Hmm...

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
My soon to be mother in law is incovined that just because me and my hasband to be has learning promblems we can never be great parents!
That to me is a very hurt and horrible thing to say to someone.Just because you have a promblem does not mean that you can't raise a child.
Babies don't come with books or anything like that.But you learn as you raise your child.All of you have parents and they raise you through good times and bad.
And as far as I can see you all turn out great!So what is the promblem?jm

what an ironic post in such a thread.

Given your profound learning disability, you have issues with other groups that don't suffer from such issues raising children?

What is that? Like a retard accusing others of being a retard? People who live in retarded glass houses shouldn't throw the retard stone.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
It doesnt matter. 50% is 50%, not 0%. There was someone at our school with this I beleive, or somethign similar, and she was generally normal other than looks and not much different from other mentally challenged children.

Actually that is a 100% chance of very sudden death. Just 50% childbirth, 50% few days later.

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, why. In that case I would have to think it is childish to get worked up about anything. Which I do to some extent. But if I can be annoyed by something someone in my class says, or on TV why not by something that is said to me on an Internet forum....by a person that is more present, that I probably spend more time with, that is more familiar to me than most people I know in real life?

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
It doesnt matter. 50% is 50%, not 0%. There was someone at our school with this I beleive, or somethign similar, and she was generally normal other than looks and not much different from other mentally challenged children.

Right, yep, as I thought you're at school. Yet still you think you know better than everyone else, no matter what they say. You talk about trends of irresponsibility and actually, have no idea what you're talking about.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
you shouldn't let this affect your feelings towards me. being annoyed at my posts is one thing. But you tend to take it way too personally.

And your opinions (as for everybody else's) is a vital part in my decision of whether I like or dislike a person. What, in your opinion, should I base it on, if not on the opinions and behaviours and characteristics of the other person?

[QUOTE=]Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Right, yep, as I thought you're at school. Yet still you think you know better than everyone else, no matter what they say. You talk about trends of irresponsibility and actually, have no idea what you're talking about. [/QUOTE] He's also horrible at maths.

Just thought I'd add that.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'm sure you do, Jackie.

This is anencephaly:
It has an incidence of about 4000 per year.
Around 50% of non-aborted cases die during childbirth, the other half die during the perinatal period of a few days. There is no cure, there is no treatment other than palliative.
It can be diagnosed during gestation.
The improper formation of the cranium and subsequent lack of forebrain mean the fetus does not develop conscious faculties - sight, hearing, nociception, movement, memory - nothing.
When the fetus is diagnosed with anencephaly most women opt for termination.

Out of curiosity, who would make the judgment that in such a scenario the woman who opts for an abortion is "wrong?"

I looked it up on google. According to the data, almost 100% of these defective children die anyways, because it is such a severe distortion of the body. In nature, 100% of them would die as well, so there is really no change in the outcome. An abortion would only shorten the gestation period.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
I looked it up on google. According to the data, almost 100% of these defective children die anyways, because it is such a severe distortion of the body. In nature, 100% of them would die as well, so there is really no change in the outcome. An abortion would only shorten the gestation period.

You know...he also said that.

Originally posted by Drusilla
Finally... last time I was here people were parading about the 10,000th post... rolleyes1

that was me 💃

stfu bardock it was ME

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Right, yep, as I thought you're at school. Yet still you think you know better than everyone else, no matter what they say. You talk about trends of irresponsibility and actually, have no idea what you're talking about.

I was wrong. I looked it up that was a different disorder. This one usually results in death. I deleted the old post.

And I can talk about trends and irresponisbility all I want, I see it everyday, maybe even more than you.

Originally posted by Schecter
that was me 💃

stfu bardock it was ME

Sure, sure.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
I looked it up on google. According to the data, almost 100% of these defective children die anyways, because it is such a severe distortion of the body. In nature, 100% of them would die as well, so there is really no change in the outcome. An abortion would only shorten the gestation period.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't think so.

And your opinions (as for everybody else's) is a vital part in my decision of whether I like or dislike a person. What, in your opinion, should I base it on, if not on the opinions and behaviours and characteristics of the other person?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
on my cool haircut....and my keen sense of fashion. 😉

What do you base your like, dislike or indifference towards me on?

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
I was wrong. I looked it up that was a different disorder. This one usually results in death. I deleted the old post.

And I can talk about trends and irresponisbility all I want, I see it everyday, maybe even more than you.

Talk about it all you want, just don't expect many people to take any notice. It's far right rubbish, and the only people who are going to listen to you are people like yourself; those who want the government to abide to their personal agenda.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Talk about it all you want, just don't expect many people to take any notice. It's far right rubbish, and the only people who are going to listen to you are people like yourself; those who want the government to abide to their personal agenda.

Well, I see you took some rather keen interest. And I dont think there's anyone who doesnt have a personal agenda they want to see the government carry out. Thats the reason there are political parties.