Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Ghost, I typed out my entire argument to you, and I have it saved if you'd like it, but it IS full of nothing but me calling your argument selfish, mentally concocted bs that only you are responsible for and have no reason to believe. If I am to get into an impasse with you, I shall, but not over some radically thought up idea of some tyrannical future caused by abortions.It consists of this because in all honesty, that is all your kind of thinking deserves. In RJ's case, at the very least he was based in the real world, and your argument is not. Therefore I don't feel it's necessary to give it the time of day unless you would like it posted.
There is a lot of it, and this is nothing more than an attempt to make our encounters more focused, as this thread has become. If I am asked to repost it, I will reply to each and every thing you say, as long as you are here, and you will reply to it all.
Alternatively; You can stop the Nostradamus bs, and just debate as if you're not a psychopath.
At 568 pages in, me having repeated the same stuff to people too stupid to understand it, for roughtly 567 of those, forgive me for losing desire at this point.
-AC
Well, I would be happy to reveiw your essay for you. Eliminating unnecceasary harrassing would be nice though, as it is relatively pointless and only serves to create more of a bad environment.
Ill admit, my views are somewhat -different- in your view, insane, retarded, and childish -but realize I see the same about your own argument. I try not to focus on that though, and thats really besides the point. What I beleive I base solely off of observation, and the knowledge that every action effects another.
Im sure you've compiled quite a list to throw against me I presume, so it may take some time to reply fully.
Originally posted by The Black Ghost
Well, I would be happy to reveiw your essay for you. Eliminating unnecceasary harrassing would be nice though, as it is relatively pointless and only serves to create more of a bad environment.Ill admit, my views are somewhat -different- in your view, insane, retarded, and childish -but realize I see the same about your own argument. I try not to focus on that though, and thats really besides the point. What I beleive I base solely off of observation, and the knowledge that every action effects another.
Im sure you've compiled quite a list to throw against me I presume, so it may take some time to reply fully.
For the record, it wasn't harassment, it was me telling you in detail why I felt what I did. If I'm going to call you those things, I'll at least give reason. Then I realised it would be foolish of me to indulge something so stupid as a self-made tyrannical future prediction, all because of abortion remaining legal. I give many stupid people and stupid views too much of my time, but I do have limits.
What you BELIEVE you base off absolutely nothing, and the observation that you do cite is biased and off-point. You have no reason to believe as you do, and it's nothing more than a proposed future, despite the fact that the future is conceptual, and for as long as abortion has been mostly legal and acceptable, nothing such has happened.
If you're going to debate about why abortion should be banned, base your argument in the now, where it matters. Not a future that you've crafted in your mind, a future that's conceptual anyway. TODAY, things are fine, yesterday things were fine, five years ago, things were fine. Things have been controlled with abortion for a very long time and probably will be forever, you have no reason to believe otherwise, so you make a reason.
Also, your bs idea of "Every action affects another." is wrong. You are only being affected because you try to make it your business and then complain, and then try to get it "fixed" because "This isn't how I want it.". Flat out, you're wrong. Abortion doesn't ruin the world, billions are living life without caring about it, some of them don't even like abortion, but realise they aren't directly involved or affected.
So yes, in my opinion, you're an idiot, and in some cases I'd sit here insulting you WITH my argument, but personally I think your kind of thinking is incredibly dangerous and I'd rather make my points as clear as possible in the hopes that you'll realise what you're saying and come to some sort of moment of clarity.
But I doubt it. At least in the case of RJ and others like him, their saving grace is their apathy. It's pretty shitty to take stances on issues like this when you essentially don't care, but we know he's too lazy and apathetic to vote for it, or maybe he has just ENOUGH sense to realise that if he's not sure, he should stay out of it. You, however, lack even that, and it's dangerous.
-AC
Alpha Centauri, i thnk you take KMC forums too seriously....as you take other's opinions
If you feel strongly about woman's rights, go fund woman's rights programs, and make your feelings and arguments public and promotional, don't just sit here telling people off because they don't feel the same as you do
I learned the hard way that complaining and arguing on a website is pointless and leads to endless bicker and personal annoyance. I don't defend my sexuality here ne more, because there is no reason 2.
I simply come here to have fun, and share perspectives....i learned not to take this dumb site seriously, and neither should u
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Alpha Centauri, i thnk you take KMC forums too seriously....as you take other's opinionsIf you feel strongly about woman's rights, go fund woman's rights programs, and make your feelings and arguments public and promotional, don't just sit here telling people off because they don't feel the same as you do
I learned the hard way that complaining and arguing on a website is pointless and leads to endless bicker and personal annoyance. I don't defend my sexuality here ne more, because there is no reason 2.
I simply come here to have fun, and share perspectives....i learned not to take this dumb site seriously, and neither should u
It's kind of an unrealistic expectation. I mean, AC shares his desire to get people to understand his perspective and agree. You come here to tell everyone what a **** you are. Which one is easier to go out and prove to be true of one's self? Besides, he from the UK...there isn't a lot he can do about American laws.
And, do you ever wonder why you keep calling this site dumb, but keep coming back?
Yes, this site is addicting, but i dont take it seriously
I had a lot of fun conversations here, that is y i return...no biggie, i go on adam4adam.com a lot more....i dont get ur point
secondly, what i am trying to tell him is that no matter how intelligent his arguments are, people with thier deep felt and stubborn beleifs will NOT see things his way
Try convincing JIA that being Gay is not a choice...will it ever work ? 😬
Same way, all you can do is share your perspective, and that's that. You cannot go insulting people just because they don't see things your way, even if there arguments ARE unsupported...people will not see things your way just because you want them to.
As for me talking about what a **** I am....i am....what's your point ? I'm not trying to get people to approve of it, or think being a **** is ok...thats just how i am, and i dont care who says what about it...but im not gonna pretend im not....
However, you obviously have your opinions of me, and that's good 4 u...i dont insult you the way you insult me, because honestly, u care more about me than i do you....
Originally posted by backdoorman
Then why do different cultures have different perceptions of what is good and bad? Seems to me if this universal set of moral laws was indeed imprinted on our conscience the world would be much more peaceful place.
Originally posted by Schecter
morality which is objective (impossible but for practicallity's sake we'll say it is) involves the basic rights of sentient human beings.
where it becomes subjective is when people declare that a ball of embryonic cells is factually a sentient being, because god puts a soul in those cells the moment of conception. can you honestly say that this part is really objective...like...i'm blatantly obtuse for not buying it?
Originally posted by Bardock42
There is no evidence that there is a set of rules that must apply to everybody. The very idea is paradox
how would they come about, where are they, what are they, who made them, why were they allowed to make them, why are the absolute, why aren't mine absolute, does the person that made them have to accept them, can they change them, where do we find them, are they certainly against abortion? Why? Why does everyone have different opinions on them? Etc.
You can not prove shit, while, the very idea of them is flawed. Even if your God made them..they aren't absolute, they are subjectively his, and he might be able to enforce them, but might doesn't make right.
I'm not really a **** Captain, ive just had a lot of sex....not with random guys, but with guys ive known pretty well
And i sold myself one time...that's all
I am highly sexual, and there's nothing I can do to contain that....not like i need to explain myself to u, but since you always feel the need to bring this up, ill answer ur supposition, and let's leave it there
Originally posted by FeceMan
Simply because it does not appear objective does not make it subjective. However, the question that one must ask oneself is: why isn't a fetus a human? Is it size? The stage of development? Its viability? The lack of sentience?
...so then we treat it subjectively, because it clearly is.
:edit: as for my humble opinion, lack of a conscious mind=not a sentient human being=i dont care what they do with it. many people seem to share my opinion.
:edit2: anyway, im glad to see that kali is rapidly making this thread topic "everything you wanted to know about goddess kali but were afraid to ask in the 800 other topics he's ruined"