Abortion

Started by Shelbert Lemon787 pages

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
In less you had an abortion how would you know how they feel after killing a baby?That is putting words in people's mouth saying that they think it is fine.
I know some people who had abortions and how terrible they stil feel about it.It does not make promblems go away it makes them alot worst.jm
My sister had an abortion.. It was the best thing for her to do in her situation. She is fine and believe me... her problems got better.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
How is it cells?It is a baby.jm
It isnt a baby... its a sack of cells... if left alone can develop into a baby later on.

Enjoy work.

[QUOTE=]Originally posted by FeceMan
I can't tell if you're making a joke. The laws of nature are physical laws. The laws of morality aren't physical. They don't say "you can't," they say "you shouldn't."[/QUOTE]

Do they say "You should not have sex with members of your own gender?", do they say "A fetus (despite medical disagreement) is a human and should have the same rights as in the other moral absolutes I consist of, meaning, it shouldn't be aborted"

Does it say "A person should not be brought into a harmful situation by another human being except when it comes to pregnancy because it is their own fault then and although they should have a way out, I, the moral absolutes, say she cant use it, cause I am the moral absolutes and I can say that, though no one knows why, cause...really, it's just a matter of opinion, even I, the moral absolutes, don't get why I should be absolute, but heck, some people do, so why not."?

[QUOTE=]Originally posted by FeceMan
Oh, come on, you know the answer to this one. 'Sides, I'm not going to derail this thread further with a religion discussion.[/QUOTE]

Wow, if you can't even answer those questions how can you even debate about it.
And it is a fact that I do not know the answers to these questions, for one, because they are fundamentally flawed and contradictory.
Well, I mean I can't force you to answer, but let me ask another one which is important:

Even assuming that your God made us....your God made everything...and he gave us free will....why are his moral standards absolute? Just because he created it? Come on...that's bullshit and you know it. My girlfriend and I could make a baby...does that mean everything we say about it is absolute and right and unchangeable?

In case you become fair again here's the questions I would like you to answer:

No I don't, so please answer "how would they come about, where are they, what are they, who made them, why were they allowed to make them, why are the absolute, why aren't mine absolute, does the person that made them have to accept them, can they change them, where do we find them, are they certainly against abortion? Why? Why does everyone have different opinions on them? Etc" point by point so I can show you how it is flawed.

[QUOTE=]Originally posted by FeceMan
Simply because one doesn't feel regret does not make it wrong. If I take an infant from its mother and throw it in a meat grinder, my action was wrong. I might not feel guitly about it, but there is no question as to the morality of what I have done. I might even feel pleased with myself for turning a baby into dogfood--but that doesn't make it right. [/QUOTE]

Why was it wrong to kill the infant? Why? On what absolute standard that applies to everyone is it wrong?

Why are there so many sets of morals?

How do you know, that killing an infant, isn't in fact, the highest form of morality? How do you know, that we shouldn't all kill infants? I mean, some seem to think that that is the right way to go...why are your wishes and your conscience to be seen as the absolute and not theirs?

On topic:

We are discussing whether this:

should have the same rights as these

Think you anti-freedom (choice) morons. THINK!

YouTube video

Originally posted by Bardock42 [/B]

...and you cry about me 'robbing' your points...german whore

btw, thats a cute baby isnt it? i wonder if its ticklish? *pokes cells* awwww did i just see it kick? its gonna be a soccer player! yes it is!

Originally posted by Schecter
...and you cry about me 'robbing' your points...german whore

btw, thats a cute baby isnt it? i wonder if its ticklish? *pokes cells* awwww did i just see it kick? its gonna be a soccer player! yes it is!

As I showed to you I have the patent for deductive reasoning.

On a different note, should we pain the room blue or pink. I can't quite decide yet, but I am sure the anti-choice people, can...it being a baby...and babies portraying their gender in a rather vain and boastful fashion.

Who are those people you posted in the group photo?

You should compare it to these:

Sex sells.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Who are those people you posted in the group photo?

You should compare it to these:

Sex sells.

It does.

But why not be fair...it's even more unlikely that those cells will become anything as useful as them (in fact...if they are aborted it is about a 0% chance)....it's like repeatedly kicking the pro-lifers in the nuts after they are already lying on the ground bleeding because of their own stupidity and lack of logic.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Who are those people you posted in the group photo?

You should compare it to these:

Sex sells.

Id buy it. The guy looks familiar, who is he?

batman

LoL.. the mighty Bruce Wayne. He's cute. The girl is hot.. I love her hair.

Originally posted by Bardock42

If I'm not mistaken I remember seeing these people on Dateline last night. They are all sex offenders.

Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
Id buy it. The guy looks familiar, who is he?

Or the kid from Empire of the Sun, take your pick.

On a different note I changed my mind on the name calling.

I am fine with pro and anti-abortion.

It is basically reasonable to call it that.

no "pro abortion" really isnt appropriate. someone can be personally against the idea of abortion, yet support another's right to choose to have it. "pro-life" is whats retarded, when it is quite simply 'anti-abortion'. the implications in their title is manipulative, offensive, untrue, and...typical

Originally posted by Schecter
no "pro abortion" really isnt appropriate. someone can be personally against the idea of abortion, yet support another's right to choose to have it. "pro-life" is whats retarded, when it is quite simply 'anti-abortion'. the implications in their title is manipulative, offensive, untrue, and...typical

Actually pro-abortion is appropriate.

Because if you just say pro-choice it is hardly defined.

The issue is abortion.

You could be pro-choice on drugs.

And pro-life is indeed retarded. I am just saying that either pro-choice or pro-abortion should be considered alright. Also, because in both cases the opposite is applicable too, they are against abortion and they are against the choice.

The most accurate is of course for the legalization and against the legalization of abortion.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Then why do u care ?????

Seriously, why do u care what i do or say ?????

About you? I don't. About what you do in the real world? I don't. About what you say on this forum? Because I have to read it. Why don't I put you on ignore? Because I still have to read it when someone else quotes you to tell you what they think. I've tried it with Jackie, and the whole ignore list crap doesn't work.

Originally posted by Schecter
i just did my best to advise him on how not to **** up and hurt her.

He also doesn't want to come on too strong as to give her the impression that he's making the descision, tempting her not to get an abortion.

Originally posted by Devil King

He also doesn't want to come on too strong as to give her the impression that he's making the descision, tempting her not to get an abortion.

exactly what i was going for. i suggested that he not impose his opinions, but rather suggest briefly if he feels strongly for/against, as it is his right to express his want, but not his right to demand.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Actually pro-abortion is appropriate.

Because if you just say pro-choice it is hardly defined.

The issue is abortion.

You could be pro-choice on drugs.

And pro-life is indeed retarded. I am just saying that either pro-choice or pro-abortion should be considered alright. Also, because in both cases the opposite is applicable too, they are against abortion and they are against the choice.

The most accurate is of course for the legalization and against the legalization of abortion.

then call me "pro reproductive choice", i guess. but i am certainly not pro-abortion. not antiabortion either. i just believe that its not my or anyone's right to impose their own sense of morals on the other half of their population who doesnt agree.

Originally posted by Schecter
exactly what i was going for.

I had no doubt it was. Very good advice to subliminally get the right decision to be made. Actually, very devious advice....

Originally posted by Bardock42
Actually pro-abortion is appropriate.

Because if you just say pro-choice it is hardly defined.

The issue is abortion.

You could be pro-choice on drugs.

And pro-life is indeed retarded. I am just saying that either pro-choice or pro-abortion should be considered alright. Also, because in both cases the opposite is applicable too, they are against abortion and they are against the choice.

The most accurate is of course for the legalization and against the legalization of abortion.

I dont think pro-abortion is appropriate, however i am anti-poo eating

Originally posted by Devil King
I had no doubt it was. Very good advice to subliminally get the right decision to be made. Actually, very devious advice....

😈

wait...i dont get it. btw did i mention he's pro-choice and voted for bush? ....TWICE? yes, clearly my personal opinions would have fallen on deaf ears even if i chose to express them

Originally posted by smoker4
I dont think pro-abortion is appropriate, however i am anti-poo eating

<------------anti-poo eatin too