Originally posted by Goddess Kali
I'm not really a **** Captain, ive just had a lot of sex....not with random guys, but with guys ive known pretty wellAnd i sold myself one time...that's all
I am highly sexual, and there's nothing I can do to contain that....not like i need to explain myself to u, but since you always feel the need to bring this up, ill answer ur supposition, and let's leave it there
I did bring it up this time, but no one is going to believe that you aren't the one that brings it up, way more often than is needed.
I just wonder who you're trying to convice that you're desireable, us or yourself?
I'm gay. I've had sex with more people than I can even remember. But I don't feel the need call myself a **** or say I'm over-sexed. Why? Because there's nothing cool about telling everyone about your sex life.
Originally posted by FeceMan
You didna answer the questions.
sorry, i edited.
Originally posted by Schecter
...so then we treat it subjectively, because it clearly is.:edit: as for my humble opinion, lack of a conscious mind=not a sentient human being=i dont care what they do with it. many people seem to share my opinion.
:edit2: anyway, im glad to see that kali is rapidly making this thread topic "everything you wanted to know about goddess kali but were afraid to ask in the 800 other topics he's ruined"
also, imho since consciousness begins in the womb, its not as simple as birth=life. however imo is silly to think that a cluster of cells should be regarded as such.
well this is screwed up. my best friend who ive known since i was a toddler just got off the phone with me...he knocked up his girlfriend.
talk about 'back to topic'.
he's asking me for advice, like im some guru on this shit. i told him basically that regardless of his opinion he needs to just take a back seat and be supportive. seems she'll probably get an abortion, from what he's saying, but i told him to not **** up and adamantly agree to an abortion, even through he really doesnt want a kid. is this good advice?
Devil King...u take me way too seriously.....
I do not care for your analysis of me....seriously, you care more about me than i care for you...i never judged you, i never brought up anything i percieve as your "flaws" etc.
But you constantly feel the need to critisize, bash, and lecture me, and what you do not realize is that i dont give a ****
I act like a jackass here because i thnk its funny...and for no other reason....i am not seeking approval like ur psychologist wannabe self suggests...if i were, i'd be hella dissapointed by now
Now please...please.....this is getting way off topic....u bring this stupid shit up in every thread, if you have an issue with me, then contact me via pm...
asshat
Originally posted by Schecter
well this is screwed up. my best friend who ive known since i was a toddler just got off the phone with me...he knocked up his girlfriend.
talk about 'back to topic'.he's asking me for advice, like im some guru on this shit. i told him basically that regardless of his opinion he needs to just take a back seat and be supportive. seems she'll probably get an abortion, from what he's saying, but i told him to not **** up and adamantly agree to an abortion, even through he really doesnt want a kid. is this good advice?
even if i was strongly against a womans right to choose i wouldn't take the opportunity to preach to him, considering its not his choice. i just did my best to advise him on how not to **** up and hurt her. on the other hand though, i want no part in advising him on what to actively decide. not touching that with a 40 foot pole.
That is true but also it saves a baby's life if you tell him to talk to his girlfriend about not having an abortion.It is not going to make the promblem go away if she does it.
It will just make everything worst.If this guy is a buddy to you then I would make sure that abortion is not on his or her mind.Night.jm
Originally posted by SchecterWhen my sister had her abortion... I wouldnt tell her what to choose either... that had to be her decision to make. Regardless, I was there for her no matter which route she chose.
even if i was strongly against a womans right to choose i wouldn't take the opportunity to preach to him, considering its not his choice. i just did my best to advise him on how not to **** up and hurt her. on the other hand though, i want no part in advising him on what to actively decide. not touching that with a 40 foot pole.
Originally posted by ADarksideJediI disagree. He was a friend to a friend.
The abortion part is not good advice but knowing that he had made a mistake and to help support her and do what he can is!JM 🙂
Originally posted by ADarksideJediWhat should he do? Stand in front of her open legs stopping the dr from preforming a procedure she has a right to choose for herself... It isnt his business if she wants an abortion. It isnt your business to choose how the future of a so called friend is gonna go. If I were a woman facing this choice, I would not appreciate you or anyone preaching to me. Be a friend and listen ... if you dont agree and cant stand the idea then stay away.
How can he call himself a friend if he is not going to say or do anything if the girl decides to have an abortion?A good friend would talk him and her out of it.
Got to get some sleep.Night.jm
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
For the record, it wasn't harassment, it was me telling you in detail why I felt what I did. If I'm going to call you those things, I'll at least give reason. Then I realised it would be foolish of me to indulge something so stupid as a self-made tyrannical future prediction, all because of abortion remaining legal. I give many stupid people and stupid views too much of my time, but I do have limits.
Well Im sorry Im wasting your time, forcing you to educate me in your higher ways.
And Im afraid that my 'self-invented' tyrannical future is not really self-invented. Im conservative, and I follow many conservative ideas, one of which being that the degredation of morality and self-control and responsibility in society (caused in fraction by abortion but majorly by other things and people's raising in general) is a bad thing. The fact that abortion is one contributor is reason enough to get rid of it, along with the rest, which I would also be against. That is something many people would agree on. Its not some lunatic prediction, its happening now.
What you BELIEVE you base off absolutely nothing, and the observation that you do cite is biased and off-point. You have no reason to believe as you do, and it's nothing more than a proposed future, despite the fact that the future is conceptual, and for as long as abortion has been mostly legal and acceptable, nothing such has happened.
ERRRR... You are completely biased as well, following a very liberal agenda that seems to revolve around the basis that everybody has unlimited rights. Everyone does not have the ability to do whatever they want to themselves if it does not at first affect anyone else, because eventually it could, and many times does lead people to problems later. Post-Partum Syndrome effects the mother, leading to depression sometimes and even suicide. On the subject of suicide, you could argue that suicide only affects the one person physically, but it also affects everyone around the person who killed themselves.
People with abortions are much more likely to be irresponsible in the future as well, and child abuse rates have increased proportionally alongsides abortions over the past 30 years, sprouting not alone from abortion, but all of the other uncaring actions that go alongside it as well. You can look up abuse rates yourself if you want.
And throughout your debate Ive heard a lot about "rights" and stuff like that, as I said earlier and you know for yourself. I would be interested to know where in the world you live. I could make a guess and say the U.S., but that would just be a guess based off of the level of arrogance and rights activism I see from your attitude. Democracy never implies ulimate freedom. Not by a longshot, there are limits to everything, and reasons they are made.
If you're going to debate about why abortion should be banned, base your argument in the now, where it matters. Not a future that you've crafted in your mind, a future that's conceptual anyway. TODAY, things are fine, yesterday things were fine, five years ago, things were fine. Things have been controlled with abortion for a very long time and probably will be forever, you have no reason to believe otherwise, so you make a reason.
Fine according to who, you? The world didnt explode but does that mean things are fine? There are other people in the world, not just those who preach the right to do nothing about our problems. Abortion is a problem. If the major gut instinct of everyone, and you yourself admitted you do not like the abuse of abortion, is that something is not right -then somethign is not right. Just because it doesnt effect me, doesnt mean I should ignore it. I heard this same lameass arguement about the Iraq war. "If it doesnt hurt America then who cares what happens to the rest of the world".
Also, your bs idea of "Every action affects another." is wrong. You are only being affected because you try to make it your business and then complain, and then try to get it "fixed" because "This isn't how I want it.". Flat out, you're wrong.
No, it is not wrong at all. Every action effects other actions, and effects others. Sometimes in ways you could never guess. Newtons laws work socially too. For everything you do, there are consequences, there are repercussions. Maybe I have idealistic views, but I have all the right in the world to try and BETTER the world. Apparently things arent the way you want it either -Ive seen you arguing about drugs in another topic.
Abortion doesn't ruin the world, billions are living life without caring about it, some of them don't even like abortion, but realise they aren't directly involved or affected.
Thats always a reason to steer clear isnt it? What about those people in the Lebanese refugee camp? They could all die and if not for the media we would never know about it. Is it then right to sit on our asses and watch? I would guess yes, in your case.
So yes, in my opinion, you're an idiot, and in some cases I'd sit here insulting you WITH my argument, but personally I think your kind of thinking is incredibly dangerous and I'd rather make my points as clear as possible in the hopes that you'll realise what you're saying and come to some sort of moment of clarity.
Yes, I do hope you will see the light too. Just like me for you though, I doubt it. Every child should get its place. Just becuase they cant voice their own opinions, doesnt mean we can just get rid of them like animals in a slaughterhouse. Like "Here's the runt-off with his head!"
At least in the case of RJ and others like him, their saving grace is their apathy. It's pretty shitty to take stances on issues like this when you essentially don't care, but we know he's too lazy and apathetic to vote for it, or maybe he has just ENOUGH sense to realise that if he's not sure, he should stay out of it. You, however, lack even that, and it's dangerous.AC
And I think its people like you who are dangerous. The very fact you think the way you do only goes to prove to me things arent "alright" as you put it. I dont want to live in a world where everyone is selfish and self-centered with their scientific power and being able to legally stop babies from being born because they dont want them at a whim of bad choice. That just leads to the next thing, and someday, something worse. Thats the beginning of the end. Theres no apocolaypse greater than what we can do to uncivilize ourselves.
By the way, I would call pro-choice very apethetic. 'We build it and patent it, so its ours for the keeping....'
By the way. Still waiting for that essay. 😉
Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
If I were a woman facing this choice, I would not appreciate you or anyone preaching to me. Be a friend and listen ... if you dont agree and cant stand the idea then stay away.
i agree. i also think it takes a real friend to be able to put religion/personal beliefs aside and support the people close to them. one might suggest, as in "you may very much regret it, etc" but to point some high power and pious finger and preach/damn would be the act of...well not a friend at all imho
Originally posted by Schecter
sorry, i edited.also, imho since consciousness begins in the womb, its not as simple as birth=life. however imo is silly to think that a cluster of cells should be regarded as such.
Also, "What's a whob?"
Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
What should he do? Stand in front of her open legs stopping the dr from preforming a procedure she has a right to choose for herself... It isnt his business if she wants an abortion. It isnt your business to choose how the future of a so called friend is gonna go. If I were a woman facing this choice, I would not appreciate you or anyone preaching to me. Be a friend and listen ... if you dont agree and cant stand the idea then stay away.
Implied in friendship- or any relationship, is trust. That goes along with being able to offer suggestions and helping them make a choice that could be greater than they can see themselves. There are times when opting to stay out of the way is more dangerous to a person's mental state.
Originally posted by FeceMan
The question wasn't about life, it was about what makes something a human.Also, "What's a whob?"
imho thats a semantics trap which really doesnt address the issues of the right to life of a sentient being. not implying that you are attempting this, but understand that it is idiot bait.
anyway, i really think that this is where the line should be drawn: conscious human life. its a clear and logical line imho. as i said earlier in this thread, i dont give 2 shits about the rights of this:
nor do i regard something with fingers, toes, and no higher brain function to be worthy of defense/pity.