Abortion

Originally posted by SelphieT
Yes, fetuses. I'm not pro life, but I respect what she believes in.

They aren't considered lives by science, courts or anyone with knowledge enough of the subject.

Originally posted by SelphieT
I'm not thinking about her only as a friend, but as an average person. Other people may not be infertile, but many still have sex with their partners without protection. And I do see what you are trying to say. And even if she did get pregnant, and she's pro life, do you think she would want to know if she deserved an abortion? It wouldn't matter.

That's irrelevant, because that would be extremely one-sided. My point is she seems very pro-choice for herself, and that's wrong. If she has the right to choose, so should every other woman. If she was pro-life, THAT'S a choice, so she should (And does) respect the right for women to choose.

Originally posted by SelphieT
And if someone denied you the rights to have an abortion, because you "f*cked up and deserve" that baby, there's always other archaic methods if you really didn't want the baby. shrug

And you believe it should come to women coat-hangering themselves in the vagina? Stupid.

Originally posted by Kelly_Bean
Yes but everyone has the right to choose what they want to abide by. It's not like life is all about compromising to believe in and agree on what everyone else is believing and agreeing on.

You don't have to like abortion to agree that it's up to a woman.

Don't like it? Don't have one. Why should ALL women not be allowed because you don't like it? Should you be banned from smoking weed because Seb doesn't like it?

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Should you be banned from smoking weed because Seb doesn't like it?

Weed and a baby are two different things--completely.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
They aren't considered lives by science, courts or anyone with knowledge enough of the subject.

That's irrelevant, because that would be extremely one-sided. My point is she seems very pro-choice for herself, and that's wrong. If she has the right to choose, so should every other woman. She's pro-life, THAT'S a choice, so she should (And does) respect the right for women to choose.

And you believe it should come to women coat-hangering themselves in the vagina? Stupid.

You don't have to like abortion to agree that it's up to a woman.

Don't like it? Don't have one. Why should ALL women not be allowed because you don't like it? Should you be banned from smoking weed because Seb doesn't like it?

-AC

Hey, I never said it'd just be the woman doing the coat-hangering. Plus I never implied it'd just be the rusty coat hanger.

......even though that'd be pretty hot.....

Originally posted by Kelly_Bean
Weed and a baby are two different things--completely.

Answer the question.

Should people and you, be banned from smoking weed because Seb and others do not like it? Yes or no?

Originally posted by SelphieT
Hey, I never said it'd just be the woman doing the coat-hangering. Plus I never implied it'd just be the rusty coat hanger.

......even though that'd be pretty hot.....

Great contribution to the debate there, Selphie.

-AC

Originally posted by Kelly_Bean
Weed and a baby are two different things--completely.

A choice isn't, and that is what this comes down to.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Answer the question.

Should people and you, be banned from smoking weed because Seb and others do not like it? Yes or no?

Great contribution to the debate there, Selphie.

-AC

Yeah, no problem.

What does smoking weed have to do with this discussion of abortions?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
He had sex with you.

I don't think anyone would call his 20 seconds of spastic jerking about and ackward crying for 45 minutes afterwards "sex".

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Answer the question.

Should people and you, be banned from smoking weed because Seb and others do not like it? Yes or no?

Great contribution to the debate there, Selphie.

-AC

Originally posted by SelphieT
Yeah, no problem.

What does smoking weed have to do with this discussion of abortions?

It has to do with people applying their personal views, and using them to restrict the choices of others.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
It has to do with people applying their personal views, and using them to restrict the choices of others.

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't think anyone would call his 20 seconds of spastic jerking about and ackward crying for 45 minutes afterwards "sex".

So.......wait a minute. That isn't sex? Shit......

Originally posted by SelphieT
What does smoking weed have to do with this discussion of abortions?

The bigger picture of why should she not smoke weed just because others dislike it when they can just not do it? She's not asking them to like it, she just doesn't deserve to be forced not to because they don't.

Originally posted by SelphieT
Yes, considering I, and everyone else would be much better off without it. It's harmful.

A) It's not, but that's besides the point.

B) Then stop yourself, weed isn't addictive. You are making some very odd points or you're a liar just giving answers that you think are consistent.

Why should people who do it and enjoy it, it's their business, stop because others don't like it, when they can just not do it? Who are you to tell me what I am better off with or without? That's up to me.

Or in the case of abortion, you can just not have one.

-AC

Originally posted by Kelly_Bean
Weed and a baby are two different things--completely.

so are a zygote and a baby

Erm..I smoke weed like once every few months. Stopping would be no obstacle for me if I really, truly had to quit.

Originally posted by Kelly_Bean
Erm..I smoke weed like once every few months. Stopping would be no obstacle for me if I really, truly had to quit.

Huh? So then why in the hell did you say how much better the world would be without it, that it's harmful, and that you should stop...if you can? Why not just stop?

You are getting yourself in knots because you've realised your argument is silly.

-AC

Originally posted by Kelly_Bean
Erm..I smoke weed like once every few months. Stopping would be no obstacle for me if I really, truly had to quit.

thats the first line of defense of any junkie. you can quit anytime you want. just not right now.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Huh? So then why in the hell did you say how much better the world would be without it, that it's harmful, and that you should stop...if you can? Why not just stop?

You are getting yourself in knots because you've realised your argument is silly.

-AC

What are they then?

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
What are they then?

Originally posted by Kelly_Bean
Just because something's harmful doesn't stop people from letting it get in their path. People do weed to get high, they don't think about the problems that it may cause.

Stop avoiding the issue, if you seriously wanna try and say weed is a harmful drug that the world could do without, I'll bump the drugs thread and everyone will tell you how emphatically wrong you are. It's the least harmful of any drug. It's never killed anybody, it's been shown to have positive medical uses, far from being bad for you. The ONLY way you MIGHT get a BIT of damage is by smoking it in godly amounts, every single day for your whole life. Even then, it's the smoking of it, not the drug itself.

Anyway, my point is, you have no point. Hence why we're now discussing weed. You do weed, but make it out to be the devil, then you say you do it rarely and could stop at any time, but then say it gets in your path. All this because you don't want to admit the flaw in your original stance, but you've since said you feel a woman has the right to choose, so you're pro-choice.

-AC