Abortion

I wonder what is going on regarding that abortion still exists for medical emergency and that having a law against it so-to-speak would get in the way too much of things such as rape emergency.

"..But I Digress.."
Every older person I meet online etc. lectures me that "thir teen and four teen year olds are having sex already." And they do care that they get pregnant and have to have an abortion. And then they blame it on others (muah?) Stop letting nonsexy ppl have sex and then you have a big problem to deal with.

Did I upset anyone? Sorry if it is because I seem "new." I'm pretty smart and clean and go on online forums like all day every day now and always wanted to.

Point being, you cannot ignore life just because the decision has to be made concerning abortion. You still have the choice not to get one.

I mean, I wouldn't try to make young ppl masturbate in sex when I take away abortion. It's like the parent would want to commit suicide anyway. There isn't much to talk @ with abortion. Why would someone forget something and need sex? Easy.... Death happens, but we want to avoid it. I would never get an abortion.

The poll's name is funny: "Do you believe in abortion?"

Originally posted by BigRed
Abortion should be allowed. Freedom of choice.

And from what I can tell, a birth certificate is given at...birth. Not conception (with regards to the rights of the baby).

A piece of paper has nothing to do with the concept of rights from a morality standpoint though. You are entitled to believe what you want though. I just find it rediculous that a woman 7 months along would abort at that point.

There needs to be several topics outlined in Abortion:

-You still have the right not to get one.
-We do still care about preventing rape.
-If you are too stupid to think, it would be nice to have more predecided.

It is just my first attempt at finding the main points people should talk about because sex always happens and so it seems afterthoughts.

Sometimes, it is best not to get one, off the topic of murders, bc it is hard on the woman to try to have kids over and over. It may never happen.

Originally posted by Pezmerga
A piece of paper has nothing to do with the concept of rights from a morality standpoint though. You are entitled to believe what you want though. I just find it rediculous that a woman 7 months along would abort at that point.

Morality is entirely subjective, it's not a given that everyone feels the same way.

So you're saying that you have to wait for someone to tell you're alive before you actually can be alive?

Well, how else are you supposed to know?

Originally posted by Robtard
Not entirely true, imo. I'm sure you can sympathize with all people "deserving a voice" i.e. the right to be heard so to speak.
My wife is currently 18 weeks pregnant; we went for an ultrasound on Monday, low and behold, this 18 month "clump of cells" as some would call it, looks human, has a heartbeat and responds to sound and movement; it has had these features and aspects for many weeks now. I don't think passaging through a vagina magically makes one from a "cell clump" into human, would you?

I personally think it is human and deserves rights, as being human. Others as noted, think it's nothing more than a "mass of cells", therefore not entitled to anything more than a cancerous lump would be. Is it really that cut and dry were one side is entirely right?

Originally posted by Bardock42
I agree, the passing the vagina line is ridiculous. Personally I would set it somewhere betqween 5 to 7 months after birth...but I am open to other suggestions, really.

Very witty, *******.

Originally posted by Robtard
Very witty, *******.

And there are people who insist we teach Creation in schools and do away with the last 200 years of scientific knowledge/advancement. Should we listen to those assholes and "keep an open mind" about that too? You of all people should really know better, look what happened when your grandparents kept an "open mind" in Germany circa 1933.

Edit: Why is "assholes" allowed, but the singular "*******" censored?

Originally posted by Robtard
And there are people who insist we teach Creation in schools and do away with the last 200 years of scientific knowledge/advancement. Should we listen to those assholes and "keep an open mind" about that too? You of all people should really know better, look what happened when your grandparents kept an "open mind" in Germany circa 1933.

Edit: Why is "assholes" allowed, but the singular "*******" censored?

I think what they did was not keeping an open mind, actually.

Though, you must admit a young child is not really far above any given higher animal except in possibly potential.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Lots of plurals are. Crappy censoring software I guess.

I think what they did was not keeping an open mind, actually.

Though, you must admit a young child is not really far above any given higher animal except in possibly potential.

No, I must not admit, since it's nonsense. Though I doubt you're being serious.

Originally posted by Robtard
No, I must not admit, since it's nonsense. Though I doubt you're being serious.

Originally posted by chik4lit
So you're saying that you have to wait for someone to tell you're alive before you actually can be alive?

I'd rather go by what is scientifically proven.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Lots of plurals are. Crappy censoring software I guess.

I think what they did was not keeping an open mind, actually.

Though, you must admit a young child is not really far above any given higher animal except in possibly potential.

(I saw a Facebook Cause called "Abortion is Racism."😉

Yea, Europeans are not perfect as a culture. They have the "privilege" of sex, but they often look like monkeys in their attempts to oust the Asian "countries." Yea, I don't know, I am like 1/2 Asian 1/2 European, but white, really, as Asians really aren't.. 😮‍💨 Maybe it's because I'm Chinese-Indonesian, the Chinese having migrated to Indonesia about 500 years ago. And then my dad is mostly Irish, so I have a nose and everything there.. I'd say I was a winner as an infant from the beginning. It's way too easy to pick and choose.

Yea, some kids have such bad parents, the switch does not make the difference in life. Is there a point when you have to kill someone - when they are dead anyway. That's a problem..

Like, since I wanted to be just European, it really worked out perfectly. Chinese can look just European, too, in a white way, I know, as for the rest. I understand it is indeed difficult to be white, esp. in ways your parents aren't.

But yea, I'd say I was always the same person.

What is a human created who supposedly will never be worthy then? Is that a term?

I think there is a point a baby animal matters "as much as a human.." It depends, who is it that is upset: the baby or the adult?

It is hard to get at what one is saying...

Originally posted by Robtard
No, I must not admit, since it's nonsense. Though I doubt you're being serious.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
I'd rather go by what is scientifically proven.

Originally posted by Bardock42
How is it nonsense?

Because a child is a human and a chimp is an ape, no disrespect to apes.

Edit: I think you're right about that person being OnceWhite/Czarina.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because a child is a human and a chimp is an ape, no disrespect to apes.

Humans are apes. 🙄

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Humans are apes. 🙄

I should of said "and a chimp isn't.", but you know what I meant. Also, the sarcasm emote doesn't work there, as you are in fact correct.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because a child is a human and a chimp is an ape, no disrespect to apes.

Edit: I think you're right about that person being OnceWhite/Czarina.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Humans are apes. 🙄

Originally posted by Robtard
Because a child is a human and a chimp is an ape, no disrespect to apes.

Edit: I think you're right about that person being OnceWhite/Czarina.

Oh, yes, and a pig is a pig and a horse is a horse. I wasn't saying they are the same thing. I was saying that a baby is no way beyond the mental level of a grown pig or a grown horse. It has more potential, but at the moment it can do even less than a the other animals.

Great, I thought I had gone insane after no one else commented on it.

Also, it's not really a sarcasm emote as much as rolling your eyes at what has been said, which was kinda applicable. Though Shakya should never use it.