Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Who is sugar coating it?-AC
Whenever I hear the "it's just a lump of cells", "do you feel the same way about spilled semen on your keyboard", "do you consider a kidney the same way", "it's like a tumor" etc. etc. etc.
That's sugar-coating to make the choice of an abortion easier, dehumanizing a fetus to make it something else. Kill the fetus if you like or need, but accept you snuffed out a human life that would be.
Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, because that potential makes it more human and far harder to suck-up through a tube.It's nothing more than sugar-coating the act of snuffing out a future human life, have your abortions all you like, just don't sugar-coat it.
It's not an attempt to make it more appetizing to anyone. It does not make it the least bit more difficult to abort either way honestly. Someone else already put it quite well.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Potential is irrelevant.
Originally posted by Robtard
Whenever I hear the "it's just a lump of cells", "do you feel the same way about spilled semen on your keyboard", "do you consider a kidney the same way", "it's like a tumor" etc. etc. etc.That's sugar-coating to make the choice of an abortion easier, dehumanizing a fetus to make it something else. Kill the fetus if you like or need, but accept you snuffed out a human life that would be.
No, that's you deciding that this is what the person is doing.
It's just cells at one point, that's a fact.
It's not a crying baby at conception.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No, that's you deciding that this is what the person is doing.It's just cells at one point, that's a fact.
It's not a crying baby at conception.
-AC
Na, just how people work. He's not handicapped, he's handicapable. He's not a retard, he's just mentally impaired. Those Jews aren't people, they're Untermensch. (Yeah, I had to go ad-nazium)
We're all "just cells", even now.
No, that's at a later stage in life.
We're not all "just cells" now.
At conception there is only cells.
What actually happened to you? Did you become religious or has marriage actually removed everything from you except your wit? No offense meant, just curious as to what happened. I mean, you were always not the biggest fan of abortion, but I'm just wonder who's been pumping shit into you...I don't like this.
Insult me or something. The new you is making me uncomfortable.
-AC
Originally posted by Robtard
Whenever I hear the "it's just a lump of cells", "do you feel the same way about spilled semen on your keyboard", "do you consider a kidney the same way", "it's like a tumor" etc. etc. etc.That's sugar-coating to make the choice of an abortion easier, dehumanizing a fetus to make it something else. Kill the fetus if you like or need, but accept you snuffed out a human life that would be.
You're acknowledging something I didn't say...or even imply. Noone is sugar coating anything.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
We're not all "just cells" now.At conception there is only cells.
What actually happened to you? Did you become religious or has marriage actually removed everything from you except your wit? No offense meant, just curious as to what happened. I mean, you were always not the biggest fan of abortion, but I'm just wonder who's been pumping shit into you...I don't like this.
Insult me or something. The new you is making me uncomfortable.
-AC
We are just cells all working together. What is the difference?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Why? Please explain in detail.
One is JUST cells, has never been any MORE than cells, is precisely what it is.
We are more, we are walking, thinking, feeling, living (In terms of possessing LIVES, not being ALIVE solely), growing, grown, still growing.
You are putting cells ALONE on that level?
-AC
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Ok, but do you call that person just a blob of cells?
No, but that's entirely an appeal to emotion. I wouldn't call it a bunch of cells because it would upset and people and because "bunch of cells" isn't very concise. That doesn't change the facts of the situation. The world doesn't go away when you close your eyes, so to speak.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
One is JUST cells, has never been any MORE than cells, is precisely what it is.We are more, we are walking, thinking, feeling, living (In terms of possessing LIVES, not being ALIVE solely), growing, grown, still growing.
You are putting cells ALONE on that level?
-AC
all of those things are biological functions of cells.
short of dualism, humans are cells working together.
Originally posted by inimalist
disagreeall "thought" is a byproduct of the action of individual cells working in unison.
I'm not claiming otherwise, but the ability to think raises on group of cells above another in my opinion. A rock is a collection of atom but cannot think, a brain is also a collection of atoms but it can recognize it's existence (or at least pretend to).