Abortion

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Originally posted by Bashar Teg
thank you for your input psychostarflymethneobrooklyntron
😂 Classic
Originally posted by Robtard
"Judges appointed by popular vote-losing presidents used a stolen Supreme Court seat to overturn the people's will" -snip

^ A sad reality

very sad indeed

California's Governor is already moving to cement the right to govern one's own body and to an abortion into California's Constitution.

Oregon and Washington are likely to do similar.

Originally posted by Robtard
^ Low energy trolling

No, not trolling at all. Abortion is an act of murder and I say this as someone with friends and relatives, who have had abortions.

Originally posted by Psychotron
No, not trolling at all. Abortion is an act of murder and I say this as someone with friends and relatives, who have had abortions.
That can't be true because you don't have any friends and your relatives are probably just as backwards as you.

I just saw this on the news and a woman spoke out about how she had an abortion because her twins wouldn't survive out of the womb and another one because her own life was in danger. You wanna call her a murderer?

There were also protests all over the U.S. and I noticed one woman with duct tape over her mouth which said "2nd class citizen." Bold and arousing at the same time. 😮

Originally posted by Blakemore
That can't be true because you don't have any friends and your relatives are probably just as backwards as you.

I just saw this on the news and a woman spoke out about how she had an abortion because her twins wouldn't survive out of the womb and another one because her own life was in danger. You wanna call her a murderer?

There were also protests all over the U.S. and I noticed one woman with duct tape over her mouth which said "2nd class citizen." Bold and arousing at the same time. 😮

Nice projection. The idea that someone is backwards because they're against the murder of the unborn is like something out of Idiocracy.

Those are fringe cases. The overwhelmingly vast majority of abortions are the result of irresponsible people having unprotected sex. Abortions as a form of contraception is amoral and you know it.

Oh, so not having the ability to murder human beings makes one a second class citizen? I guess we're all second class citizens then.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Nice projection. The idea that someone is backwards because they're against the murder of the unborn is like something out of Idiocracy.
You can't murder the unborn, you idiot. They're not born. That organism only becomes an independent life when the umbilical cord is removed.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Those are fringe cases. The overwhelmingly vast majority of abortions are the result of irresponsible people having unprotected sex. Abortions as a form of contraception is amoral and you know it.
That's complete nonsense. I seriously doubt a woman would willingly have unprotected sex because she saw abortion as an option. As for irresponsible people, those are fringe cases and usually don't result in abortions. Rape and protecting the mother/fetus' lives are the reason abortions exist, you dolt. In fact, women who have unprotected sex with a stranger do so to get pregnant, not because they have some abortion fetish.
1. No more periods for 9 months
2. Everyone is nice to me and helps me get a nice place to stay and teach how to be a good mum
3. Money from the government
4. The child and the neighbourhood will always love me more than they do, the father.
Etc.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Oh, so not having the ability to murder human beings makes one a second class citizen? I guess we're all second class citizens then.
Scribble, you don't even have a womb. Why should or the government decide what a woman chooses to do to her own body?

Originally posted by Blakemore
You can't murder the unborn, you idiot. They're not born. That organism only becomes an independent life when the umbilical cord is removed.

That's complete nonsense. I seriously doubt a woman would willingly have unprotected sex because she saw abortion as an option. As for irresponsible people, those are fringe cases and usually don't result in abortions. Rape and protecting the mother/fetus' lives are the reason abortions exist, you dolt. In fact, women who have unprotected sex with a stranger do so to get pregnant, not because they have some abortion fetish.
1. No more periods for 9 months
2. Everyone is nice to me and helps me get a nice place to stay and teach how to be a good mum
3. Money from the government
4. The child and the neighbourhood will always love me more than they do, the father.
Etc.

Scribble, you don't even have a womb. Why should or the government decide what a woman chooses to do to her own body?

Being in the womb does not make a living being less alive, bucko. There's a reason killing a pregnant woman is counted as a double homicide legally.

Are you really going to lie so blatantly? Absolutely shameless. You know we can just look up abortion statistics, right? The majority of abortions have nothing to do with rape, incest or unviable pregnancies. The number one reason for abortions is accidental pregnancy.

"My body, my choice" is a lie. There's another body involved in the pregnancy and I bet it doesn't want to get violently ripped apart and pulled out of the womb. And I don't need a womb to know murder is wrong.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Being in the womb does not make a living being less alive, bucko.
Yes it does because of the umbilical cord, bucko. 😂

Originally posted by Psychotron
There's a reason killing a pregnant woman is counted as a double homicide legally.
You mean like how people say "she is eating for two?"

Originally posted by Psychotron
Are you really going to lie so blatantly? Absolutely shameless. You know we can just look up abortion statistics, right? The majority of abortions have nothing to do with rape, incest or unviable pregnancies. The number one reason for abortions is accidental pregnancy.
Go on, then. Look up abortion stats. Show us the data.

Originally posted by Psychotron
"My body, my choice" is a lie. There's another body involved in the pregnancy and I bet it doesn't want to get violently ripped apart and pulled out of the womb. And I don't need a womb to know murder is wrong.
Yes, there is another body involved, it's called the mother! 😂

My new state flag:

Originally posted by Impediment
My new state flag:
Looks too Polish.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Yes it does because of the umbilical cord, bucko. 😂

You mean like how people say "she is eating for two?"

Go on, then. Look up abortion stats. Show us the data.

Yes, there is another body involved, it's called the mother! 😂

So, you failed biology? Good to know.

Yeah, a pregnant woman is eating for two beings - herself and the baby. What's your point?

My pleasure:
https://www.guttmacher.org/journals/psrh/2005/reasons-us-women-have-abortions-quantitative-and-qualitative-perspectives
"Reasons in 2004. Among the structured survey respondents, the two most common reasons were "having a baby would dramatically change my life" and "I can't afford a baby now" (cited by 74% and 73%, respectively—Table 2)."

https://bmcwomenshealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1472-6874-13-29
"Women’s reasons for seeking an abortion fell into 11 broad themes. The predominant themes identified as reasons for seeking abortion included financial reasons (40%), timing (36%), partner related reasons (31%), and the need to focus on other children (29%)"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5957082
"In most countries, the most frequently cited reasons for having an abortion were socioeconomic concerns or limiting childbearing."
As you can see, the majority of women do not get abortions due to rape, incest or unviable pregnancies.

No, my low IQ friend. The mother is one body, the baby is the other. You liberal weirdos have taken something as beautiful as pregnancy and you have twisted it to the point where you act as if the fetus is some kind of tumor that appeared out of nowhere instead of a very logical consequence of having unsafe sex. "My body, my choice" my ass. Just use a condom.

Originally posted by Psychotron
So, you failed biology? Good to know.

Yeah, a pregnant woman is eating for two beings - herself and the baby. What's your point?

My pleasure:
https://www.guttmacher.org/journals/psrh/2005/reasons-us-women-have-abortions-quantitative-and-qualitative-perspectives
"Reasons in 2004. Among the structured survey respondents, the two most common reasons were "having a baby would dramatically change my life" and "I can't afford a baby now" (cited by 74% and 73%, respectively—Table 2)."

https://bmcwomenshealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1472-6874-13-29
"Women’s reasons for seeking an abortion fell into 11 broad themes. The predominant themes identified as reasons for seeking abortion included financial reasons (40%), timing (36%), partner related reasons (31%), and the need to focus on other children (29%)"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5957082
"In most countries, the most frequently cited reasons for having an abortion were socioeconomic concerns or limiting childbearing."
As you can see, the majority of women do not get abortions due to rape, incest or unviable pregnancies.

No, my low IQ friend. The mother is one body, the baby is the other. You liberal weirdos have taken something as beautiful as pregnancy and you have twisted it to the point where you act as if the fetus is some kind of tumor that appeared out of nowhere instead of a very logical consequence of having unsafe sex. "My body, my choice" my ass. Just use a condom.

The life is dependent on the mother. You understand that is not an independent life, right?

The point is "she" is eating for two. She's the active owner of the child, not the government.

Thanks for the data, they all cite financial reasons, partner related reasons and other priorities like work, job, other children etc. for abortion. Not one of them say it was because of irresponsible adults using unprotected sex or abortion as a form of contraception, which was what you stated. You dolt.

I've done no such thing. The fetus is not an independent life form. It doesn't count as a body in the context you're using.

Btw, condoms don't work 100% of the time.

Originally posted by Blakemore
The life is dependent on the mother. You understand that is not an independent life, right?

The point is "she" is eating for two. She's the active owner of the child, not the government.

Thanks for the data, they all cite financial reasons, partner related reasons and other priorities like work, job, other children etc. for abortion. Not one of them say it was because of irresponsible adults using unprotected sex or abortion as a form of contraception, which was what you stated. You dolt.

I've done no such thing. The fetus is not an independent life form. It doesn't count as a body in the context you're using.

Btw, condoms don't work 100% of the time.

You do understand that being dependent on your mother doesn't mean you're less of a living being, right? All babies are dependent on their mothers, regardless if they're 6,9 or 12 months old. Children are unable to survive on their own in general. That doesn't mean they're not alive, or that they're not human.

Seriously, "owner"? Children are not pets, nobody owns them. It's called being a "guardian", not an "owner". Anyway, yeah. The mother is the "owner" of her child after it's born too, that doesn't mean she can kill her 2-year-old toddler if she wants to.

Lmao how do you think unwanted pregnancies happen if not because of unprotected sex? Contraception almost never fails. And your original argument was that most women get abortions due to rape and unviable pregnancies, which has now been debunked, so now we're left with purely selfish reasons to get an abortion. Thanks for playing.

Wtf kind of argument is this? You don't need to be independent to have a body. All small children are dependent on their parents for survival even after birth. They lost the umbilical cord, but they need mommy's breast milk instead. 100% dependency. Does that mean parents have the right kill their children after birth too?

Condoms may not be 100% fullproof, but they have never failed me in the 13 or so years I've been using them. I've never heard of any of my friends having any accidents either. Also, there are other forms of birth control and contraception.

And you criticise my understanding of biology.

Originally posted by Psychotron
You do understand that being dependent on your mother doesn't mean you're less of a living being, right? All babies are dependent on their mothers, regardless if they're 6,9 or 12 months old. Children are unable to survive on their own in general. That doesn't mean they're not alive, or that they're not human.

Seriously, "owner"? Children are not pets, nobody owns them. It's called being a "guardian", not an "owner". Anyway, yeah. The mother is the "owner" of her child after it's born too, that doesn't mean she can kill her 2-year-old toddler if she wants to.

Lmao how do you think unwanted pregnancies happen if not because of unprotected sex? Contraception almost never fails. And your original argument was that most women get abortions due to rape and unviable pregnancies, which has now been debunked, so now we're left with purely selfish reasons to get an abortion. Thanks for playing.

Wtf kind of argument is this? You don't need to be independent to have a body. All small children are dependent on their parents for survival even after birth. They lost the umbilical cord, but they need mommy's breast milk instead. 100% dependency. Does that mean parents have the right kill their children after birth too?

Condoms may not be 100% fullproof, but they have never failed me in the 13 or so years I've been using them. I've never heard of any of my friends having any accidents either. Also, there are other forms of birth control and contraception.

Oh Star durpalm

"fullproof" instead of "foolproof"

That's a ****ing hilarious error...

Time to bring this out again.

Originally posted by Blakemore
"fullproof" instead of "foolproof"

That's a ****ing hilarious error...

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Oh Star durpalm
Originally posted by Blakemore
And you criticise my understanding of biology.

As expected, absolutely no counterargument from the baby killer squad except for a typo. You people just need to admit you're okay with being morally wrong as long as it lets you evade responsibility for your actions. At least then you'll be honest.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Oh Star durpalm
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!

Dismissing an argument without addressing it means you have no argument.

Concession accepted.