Thanks!Anyway abortions to me is wrong.It is a selfish thing to be able to kill your baby.Whcih is why I am prolife abortions should not be consider at all.
Why should we give woman the right to hurt her baby?Sure it is not our bodys but that makes us kind of selfish for not caring either way.And not caring about that person is wrong.JM
"It is a selfish thing to be able to kill your baby.Whcih is why I am prolife abortions should not be consider at all.
Why should we give woman the right to hurt her baby?Sure it is not our bodys but that makes us kind of selfish for not caring either way.And not caring about that person is wrong.JM"
Quite possibly the biggest load of nonense ever.
A) It's not killing a baby. Whoa whoa whoa, I know YOU think it is. Hahaha. I'm aware of that. I'm just telling you for a fact that it's not.
B) We can't give women the rights to "hurt their baby" because the right to have an abortion is theirs whether we want em to have it or not.
C) Not caring about a person who I have never ever met in my entire life is not selfish.
If you wanna care for everyone, let em do what's best for them, not for you.
-AC
OK, A fetus has no concious thought, its not a sentient being....
I hold no sympathy for anything thats non-sentient, I don't care about killing deer or cow at a slaughterhouse becuase they don't know they exist, they are nothing but a bag of insincts. A fetus is like a deer. they don't know it exists therefore is not sentient and not human yet.
jm your 13 lets see how you feel when you unexpectedly get pregnant and are a 16 year old pregnant girl in high school i bet you would change your tune then
She probably would...but she should still take responsibility for her actions. I see abortion as white-out for sex. Oops, I got pregnant, better go pop a pill instead of facing the consequences of my poor choice.
The only difference is that using white-out doesn't really have to do with a moral dilemma 🙂.
Originally posted by FeceMan1:having an abortion is not that simple and anybody that does find it that simple should probably not have children anyway.
She probably would...but she should still take responsibility for her actions. I see abortion as white-out for sex. Oops, I got pregnant, better go pop a pill instead of facing the consequences of my poor choice.The only difference is that using white-out doesn't really have to do with a moral dilemma 🙂.
o and some statistics about abortions in the USA. havent found them for the UK yet.
88% of abortions occur in the first 6-12 weeks of pregnancy
90% of women who are at risk from unplanned pregnancies are using some form of protection.
43% of women getting an abortion claimed they were protestant, 27% claimed they were catholic.
52% of women getting abortions were under 25.
4.3% of abortions were obtained at 16-20 weeks and 1.4% were obtained after 21 weeks
Since 1990 the % of pregnant women getting abortions has reduced (with the exception of 1996).
78% of women who had abortions were unmarried.
18% of women who had an abortion had two or more abortions previously.
53% were first timers.
54% of patients reported that they were using contraception during the month they became pregnant.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5212a1.htm
data for 2000 (and some stuff from previous years) didnt put in all the facts just the ones that interested me and that i felt were relevant to this discussion for both sides of the arguement. I'm sure you guys can find more statistics to fill in the gaps but i dont have anymore time so...
This is just getting silly. Jackie, babe, listen up........ Just because someone is prochoice does NOT mean they are anti Jackie or will go around town advertising abortions like the latest sale at Walmart. We ALL understand by now that you are staunchly prolife. Duly noted, over & over again. Repeating you argument 3 -10 times per page is NOT changing anyone's mind. So, unless you have a new fact or argument to add to your position, please just hush up & listen to what other people are saying.
Let me spell it out very clearly........
Prolife = not in favor of abortions (except in some extenuating circumstances or not at all)
Pro choice = not necessarily in favor of abortions but also not judgemental enough to impose their views by force on other
Which one sounds more rational?
Bottom line is, whether it is legal or not, abortions HAVE always taken place and WILL always take place. You may lament this fact all you like, but it is a fact nonetheless. In the end each person is accountable for their own actions and will be judged. Therefore, you nor anyone else have the right to impose your views onto ME...
This is a debate thread. Not an 'I'm right & here's why you are wrong thread'.....If you don't agree with others, fine. No problem. But to ignore the opinions of those who are different from your own is to perpetuate your own ignorance.......
Heres some statistics I found:
Why Abortions Are Performed
The overwhelming majority of all abortions, (95%), are done as a means of birth control.
Only 1% are performed because of rape or incest;
1% because of fetal abnormalities;
3% due to the mother's health problems.
Reasons Women Choose Abortion (U.S.)
Wants to postpone childbearing: 25.5%
Wants no (more) children: 7.9%
Cannot afford a baby: 21.3%
Having a child will disrupt education or job: 10.8%
Has relationship problem or partner does not want pregnancy: 14.1%
Too young; parent(s) or other(s) object to pregnancy: 12.2%
Risk to maternal health: 2.8%
Risk to fetal health: 3.3%
Other: 2.1%
http://www.abortiontv.com/AbortionStatistics.htm
Also, pretty much the same statistics plus more at:
http://womensissues.about.com/cs/abortionstats/a/aaabortionstats.htm
No, dear, illegalizing abortion doesn't make it harder at all to get one, just more dangerous. Would you rather a woman go in to get an abortion and have it done in a clinic by a doctor, or in some building off a back-alley by someone untrained?
I am pro-choice, but I do not push abortion. I just believe that it should be available, should a woman make that choice.
Originally posted by naybean
how can 95% of abortions be performed as a means of birth control when 54% of the women are using protection already? Yea - i got some of my stats from the 2nd website too...
That doesn't mean they didn't use any other form of protection, it means that they used abortion either as back up protection when other protection didn't work, or as their only form of birth control. Anytime a woman gets an abortion for non medical reasons and wasn't a victim of rape or incest that is technically using it as a form of birth control. If abortion is needed for medical reasons, then it is more of a necessary procedure than birth control.
Originally posted by Silver Stardust
No, dear, illegalizing abortion doesn't make it harder at all to get one, just more dangerous. Would you rather a woman go in to get an abortion and have it done in a clinic by a doctor, or in some building off a back-alley by someone untrained?I am pro-choice, but I do not push abortion. I just believe that it should be available, should a woman make that choice.
http://abortionfacts.com/online_books/love_them_both/why_cant_we_love_them_both_27.asp#illegal
It is a biased site, but they do have alot of facts.
I used to believe in abortions, but have two kids of my own. Now, that I experience childbirth x2, I can not see how anyone would even want to abort an innocent child. A baby is living cell before the 8 week mark.
I am for it if the mother is really ill, Rape or incest or if the child is already majorly deformed or will die anyway, but If the mother and child is healthy then no. Sorry, just my opinion. :/