Abortion

Started by bilbofett787 pages
Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
True it does not stop people.But it does make it harder for them to find someone to do the abortion for them if it is againt the law.I mean who would go to all that trouble to kill a baby for there own needs?JM

Good Lord yu are thick aren't you?

Lots of people, Jacks, lotsa people

Originally posted by fever red
Also, how'd the rape victom get to be a b!tch?
Maybe sleeping on the couch does that to you, too- yes, I can see how it would make you cranky.

I cannot stand hearing about children "born evil." This is a hurtful thing to say about children of rape.

However, I won't attack you- you don't seem to intend any malice, any harm. Your road is paved with good intentions, so enjoy your trip...

"The Next Hitler" and b!tches I put in 2 different categories, which I speak of daily.

You do realize that if either person is a horrible soul, and the child is exposed to the wrong thing at youth, due to the genetics inside them. It's the beginning of the end, and the child will become a demon. And no, that isn't something of the sort from movies, but I've known to many different kinds of people to know about this personally.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You shouldn't read JToTheP's posts. This is a guy who has had quite possibly the most hypocritical stances on a few subjest that I've ever seen in my short 5 months here.

-AC

You've been here for 5 months, so you haven't seen sh!t. So make it easy on yourself and everybody and shut the f*ck up, because you don't know me, you don't know what I've seen and been through in my life, so I suggest you don't try to make it an absolute priority to make yourself seem intelligent, when you infact don't know SH!T. So I suggest you don't try to bad mouth me and try to be tough, and shut your little b!tchy trap.

And your just trying to plant negative feedback on me because you don't have jacksh!t to say that's actually intelligent. Quite frankly your a horrible excuse as a represenative of the female gender, and I hope you seriously grow up a bit soon, and learn a thing or two, or Karma bites you in the ass horrifically.

Yes, I wish this on all people I dislike, especially f*ckin loser noobies who try to make me look bad. I've got a completely balanced persona here, I have good to say, I have ill to say, and I have attacks. So why don't you make it easy on yourself and like I said before shut your little trap.

Capt.>” Okay, I was just making sure. Adam and I should have you over for dinner sometime....”
In North Carolina??? Well, it’s been 1½ years since my last US-visit… 🙂

Oh, and about JM’s list… strange that so many people are after him ”for no reason”, hm?

FE> Hmmm… What happened to the discussion on The Pill causing chemical abortion???
And you’re STILL to answer my question on whether or not it’s okay for God to murder all the firstborns in Egypt. Nooo, you didn’t answer it – you dodged the answer. So… I am waiting… And I am patient.

Jodo kast> Read the ENTIRE thread, will ya? And THEN post your reply…

Silver Stardust> DON’T BOTHER! If he’s so lazy he can’t read all that we’ve already been through, who’s to say he’ll read the replies we post now?

Afro_Cheese> A foetus is NOT a complete human being yet. Why does it need to stay in the woomb of woman for nine months, to be nurtured and receive oxygen FROM the woman? Because it is NOT complete.
My point is: Since the embryo/foetus CANNOT survive without the woman’s body, it is not autonomous (one of the defining part of being a living human being). To me, this lack of autonomy justifies abortion.

Why is it okay for you to abort a non-implanted embryo and not an implanted one. If life, according to you, begins with the fertilisation of the egg, then it either does or it does not.

The embryo has to stay in the womb for 9 months to grow and develop. It's DNA is complete from the start, no characteristics will be added or subtracted, but it has not yet grown into a fully developed organism which can survive on it's own. That is not to say it's not alive.

I don't get how you could not see why I would prefer the birth control pill over abortion. The birth control pill prevents fertilization a majority of the time. If it does not, then the the embryo cannot be implanted. Aborting a partially developed fetus is not only more dangerous for the woman, but the fetus is killed every single time. At least with birth control conception is prevented MOST of the time.

Also, when the pill doesn't prevent fertilization, the woman is still technically never pregnant. Just having a fertilized egg in you does not make you pregnant. The egg must be implanted. Therefore that still isn't considered chemical abortion, although I guess I can see how some would say it is.

Is it true that the body flushes mutated cells in any instance? 😮

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
The embryo has to stay in the womb for 9 months to grow and develop. It's DNA is complete from the start, no characteristics will be added or subtracted, but it has not yet grown into a fully developed organism which can survive on it's own. That is not to say it's not alive.

I don't get how you could not see why I would prefer the birth control pill over abortion. The birth control pill prevents fertilization a majority of the time. If it does not, then the the embryo cannot be implanted. Aborting a partially developed fetus is not only more dangerous for the woman, but the fetus is killed every single time. At least with birth control conception is prevented MOST of the time.

Also, when the pill doesn't prevent fertilization, the woman is still technically never pregnant. Just having a fertilized egg in you does not make you pregnant. The egg must be implanted. Therefore that still isn't considered chemical abortion, although I guess I can see how some would say it is.

I agree that the pill is a better option than abortion because its less traumatic, easier and less controversial. But abortion still needs to be an option.

Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
True it does not stop people.But it does make it harder for them to find someone to do the abortion for them if it is againt the law.I mean who would go to all that trouble to kill a baby for there own needs?JM
20 million people - the answers are there read them

Actually, there is really no way to know how many illegal abortions occur per year. Illegal activities are not reported if nobody gets caught, so any number they throw out there is just a rough estimate. There are estimates much lower than that and I'm sure there are also estimates much higher.

Hey I am not as thick as some selfish people and not as thick as you for that matter bilbo!I doubt about the million people through.I had read the whole thread and not that much people must not have the need to be selfish and kill those babies for there own reasons.
It is just such a unhuman thought!JM

calling these people selfish is really insensitive jackie, don't you see that? its only inhuman to you and other pro life people, not to others, its a matter of opinion.

Ok maybe it is alittle harsh but most of the people who are having abortions don't care if they are kiling a human.Would it you think that is kind of selfish?
It seens to me is that all they are thinking of them selfs.And just want to take the easy way out instead of the hard way.They put them selfs in that postion.
They should learn how to deal with it and a mature way.And franky having an abortion does not sound very mature to me.JM

but to them its not a human(not a fully developed one) so how is it selfish?

maturity has no baring whatsoever. it can be a mature or immature decision, depending on the mother. but its a difficult decision.

bilbo... come on...

i know i don't agree with jackie either but still...

Originally posted by bilbofett
No the real inhumane thought is why on earth did your parents not have one???

😆 Nice.

That's nice? D@mn, I'm a Saint!

Actually as much as I disagree with Jackie, that comment was uncalled for.

I'll just be quick: Abortion can be good if the woman is raped, and yes many pregnancies happen through rape, as well as consentual sex. So I remain pro-choice, her body, her choice.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Actually as much as I disagree with Jackie, that comment was uncalled for.

Wow, and I thought there was only one person in this forum on whom sarcasm was lost.....

damn bilbo