Abortion

Started by finti787 pages

Why do you think it is wrong?It is againt the law
and abortion is not thus it aint murder and it aint wrong

Afro_Cheese> No, an embryo is NOT a living human being. Living and alive are not the same. To be LIVING go back a few pages and look at the definition Evy_O added to the discussion. To be “living” you have to be autonomous. An embryo is not.

Have you found anyone on this board, who says abortions are their “favourite practice”? No. I haven’t seen anyone either.
No one here says we should just abort left and right as another mean of contraception. But the right to terminate an unwanted pregnancy is vital to equality of the genders and to ensure kids are brought into the world by people who actually want them.
”But I still think killing an embryo before any growth is possible is better than aborting it as a partially developed fetus.”
Yep. I see your point of view. But if your uneasiness about abortions deals with ”living”, then you have to define when life begins.

Kandy Kisses> Oh, don’t even try! JM is an angsty attention-craving teen-ager whom a few people still try to shove some sense into.

😆
Okay, so according to poor little Jackie murder is wrong because it’s against the law. Abortion is not against the law, ergo it’s not wrong…

Well, I’m on Jackies hate-list, because he can’t respond to my arguments. Would someone ask him what he does to prevent the deaths of the thousands of starving kids in the 3rd world that die each week?
(Smiles evilly)

Jackie murder would be wrong if it was against the law or not.. murder isn't wrong because it's against the law, murder is against the law because it's wrong. Murder is wrong because it is one person taking it in their hands to end another's life.

So Cheese when you abort a baby you are taking it in your hands and ending one's life.It is the same thing.JM How on earth do you think it is different?Happy Thanksgiving everyone!Got to go!

living:

Verb
Inflected forms: lived, liv·ing, lives
Verb
intr. 1. To be alive; exist. 2. To continue to be alive: lived through a bad accident. 3. To support oneself; subsist: living on rice and fish; lives on a small inheritance. 4. To reside; dwell: lives on a farm. 5. To conduct one's life in a particular manner: lived frugally. 6. To pursue a positive, satisfying existence; enjoy life: those who truly live. 7. To remain in human memory: an event that lives on in our minds.
Verb

human being:

Noun
A human.

Which one of those descriptions does an embryo not fit?

Originally posted by The Omega
Afro_Cheese> No, an embryo is NOT a living human being. Living and alive are not the same. To be LIVING go back a few pages and look at the definition Evy_O added to the discussion. To be “living” you have to be autonomous. An embryo is not.

Have you found anyone on this board, who says abortions are their “favourite practice”? No. I haven’t seen anyone either.
No one here says we should just abort left and right as another mean of contraception. But the right to terminate an unwanted pregnancy is vital to equality of the genders and to ensure kids are brought into the world by people who actually want them.
”But I still think killing an embryo before any growth is possible is better than aborting it as a partially developed fetus.”
Yep. I see your point of view. But if your uneasiness about abortions deals with ”living”, then you have to define when life begins.

Kandy Kisses> Oh, don’t even try! JM is an angsty attention-craving teen-ager whom a few people still try to shove some sense into.

😆
Okay, so according to poor little Jackie murder is wrong because it’s against the law. Abortion is not against the law, ergo it’s not wrong…

Well, I’m on Jackies hate-list, because he can’t respond to my arguments. Would someone ask him what he does to prevent the deaths of the thousands of starving kids in the 3rd world that die each week?
(Smiles evilly)


Just for you JM 😉

Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
So Cheese when you abort a baby you are taking it in your hands and ending one's life.It is the same thing.JM How on earth do you think it is different?Happy Thanksgiving everyone!Got to go!

The fetus is dependent on the mother for life. She isn't going up to another person and blatantly murdering them, she is removing a dependent organism from her body. If the fetus wasn't dependent on her for survival and she killed it, that would be murder.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
[b] living:

Verb
Inflected forms: lived, liv·ing, lives
Verb
intr. 1. To be alive; exist. 2. To continue to be alive: lived through a bad accident. 3. To support oneself; subsist: living on rice and fish; lives on a small inheritance. 4. To reside; dwell: lives on a farm. 5. To conduct one's life in a particular manner: lived frugally. 6. To pursue a positive, satisfying existence; enjoy life: those who truly live.

human being:

Noun
A human.

Which one of those descriptions does an embryo not fit? [/B]


This part....
And WTF is the human definition? A human being is a human?

Fine...

human:

Noun
1. A member of the genus Homo and especially of the species H. sapiens. 2. A person: the extraordinary humans who explored Antarctica.
Adjective
1. Of, relating to, or characteristic of humans: the course of human events; the human race. 2. Having or showing those positive aspects of nature and character regarded as distinguishing humans from other animals: an act of human kindness. 3. Subject to or indicative of the weaknesses, imperfections, and fragility associated with humans: a mistake that shows he's only human; human frailty. 4. Having the form of a human. 5. Made up of humans: formed a human bridge across the ice.

Definitions provided by The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Other important copyright information here.

Afro_Cheese> No, go back a few pages where Evy_O discusses the definition of "living". The experts are not even sure how to define it exactly, something with a metabolism, the ability to procreate and being autonomous...

So Cheese when you abort a baby you are taking it in your hands and ending one's life.It is the same thing.JM How on earth do you think it is different
it aint a baby from the start

Yeah,but it becomes.

yea so thats why its better to abort it before it becomes one in the earlier stages of pregnancy.

It's all the same if you kill it after 2 weeks or 2 months it's still murder.

Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
Why is murdering someone wrong?Why do you think it is wrong?It is againt the law for one thing and it should be the same for having abortions!JM

Thank you for answering my question. Here's the second part to it.

Why is death sad?

Yeah,but it becomes
early in the pregnancy it aint classified as a baby, it can evolve into a baby or it might not become anything at all. A spontaneous abortion, the body's own way to abort

It's all the same if you kill it after 2 weeks or 2 months it's still murder
sometimes the body get rid of it all by it self is that murder too?
After 2 weeks the fetus aint a life it is still in the process of trying to become a life.

no its not - a 2 wk old foetus is still a ball of cells that resembles an alien and has no feeling. a 4 month old foetus is much closer to being a baby and its debateable whether it has feeling or not.

the "no its not" was to JK btw

a 4 month old foetus is much closer to being a baby and its debateable whether it has feeling or not
well 4 months is past the legal time limit to abort in Norway so..........

the "no its not" was to JK btw
yeah I got that part