Abortion

Originally posted by naybean
Afro i know that an abortion isnt in the best interest opf the kid i wasnt saying it was so will u stop jumping me everytime i mention the kid. i was simply pointin out to JM that while adopted kids may have "loving parents who love you and have a whole life ahead of you.When you get an abortion.
You are destroying that child's future or maybe that child would be the next president or have a great job." they may also turn into the next harold shipman.

and not becaue the mom killed them while having an abortion

finti there is no point, there just not gonna listen

they are gonna hear it so many more times it will be real annoying

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If somebody wants to get rid of their baby then let them do what they want, it's none of my business.

Yes exactly, it isn't any of our business, which is why it shouldn't be made illegal.

Sorry about the silence. Been busy! (Typos may occur)

Afro_Cheese> ARGH! For the giga-zillionth time: No one says an embryo is not alive. The claim is it is not a living human being - YET! The embryo DEPENDS crucially on the woman's body to survive, it is not autonomous.

I think you misunderstand my point. IF you're against abortion (Are you?) will you then also disallow the Pill, as it may cause a chemical abortion?
When does life begin according to you?

Lil> Why so upset over Bilbofetts comment? He's most likely on JM's list anyways...

Jedi Priestess> "Having an abortion simply because its inconvenient to have a child is bullshit in my book."
I suppose you know ALL about the time and money involved in raising a child. Having a kid is not something we should leave to teeangers. It's a great responsibility to bring a new human being into the world. It'd rather kids were wanted and loved than accidents and "inconviniences".

FE> There this cool feature "go to first unread post." Lets you find your latest contribution from there.
And the Pill (Not the Abortion Pill) but THE pill does one of two things:
1) Prevents release of egg. Nothing gets fertilized. But once in a while an egg IS released and can become fertilized. When this happens the Pill "flushes" the fertilized egg = chemical abortion. Is that okay with you?

So lets say some one kills someone in cold blood?That is againt the law.And abortion is killing a baby so what is the difference.Abortion to me is the same as killing someone.
Just because we are talking about abortion here does not mean that you killing a older person is not the same.It is still murder.Which is why abortion should be againt the law.
If aborting a baby is not murder then what is it?JM

Well Omega, it is obviously human, and you just said yourself that it's alive, so I'm saying it's a living human being. Is it a sentient being? No. However if you are willing to show me a valid source that explains why an embryo is not a living human being, I will keep an open mind about it.

And I can't exactly say I'm AGAINST abortion because I don't want it outlawed, but it's definitely not my favorite practice. I just explained to you why I think the pill is better than abortion. And again, in order to get an abortion (chemical or surgical) you must first be pregnant. When the birth control pill prevents the implanted egg from implanting the woman is never pregnant, therefore that's not a chemical abortion. I get what your saying, it does kill the embryo. But I still think killing an embryo before any growth is possible is better than aborting it as a partially developed fetus. If you don't see a difference...good for you. I do. So to answer your question in a nutshell, no I would not disallow the Pill until we come up with something better. The Pill isn't perfect by any means, but it's better than abortion. Especially abortion after 12 weeks.

I'd have to say basic logic for anyone who is in fact "against abortion" would still be in favor of the pill though. Because if you do make the pill illegal, that is only going to increase the abortion rate. Trying to save a few fertilized eggs you will in result end up causing a sharp increase in aborting partially developed fetuses.

Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
So lets say some one kills someone in cold blood?That is againt the law.And abortion is killing a baby so what is the difference.Abortion to me is the same as killing someone.
Just because we are talking about abortion here does not mean that you killing a older person is not the same.It is still murder.Which is why abortion should be againt the law.
If aborting a baby is not murder then what is it?JM

What if the girl was raped! Would it be right to bring that baby into the world knowing that every time she saw the babies' face it brought back the memory of that night. Would it be better to end the torture and nightmare by aborting it!

Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
If aborting a baby is not murder then what is it?JM

It's called ABORTION. If it was murder, then it would be called MURDER

As it stand right now, it is also a right that has been guarenteed by the constitution.

And abortion is killing a baby so what is the difference.Abortion to me is the same as killing someone.

And it aint murder as long as it is legal........................101

If aborting a baby is not murder then what is it

Finish that thought real quick.An abortion is when you kill a baby so you don't have to have one!Am I right?It may be called an abortion but that does not mean that it is not murder.
As for the rape thing.It is not that possible if a girl that is raped to actly have a baby.It is not very offen either.So I am going to say yes even in that case abortion should not be used.JM

Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
Finish that thought real quick.An abortion is when you kill a baby so you don't have to have one!Am I right?It may be called an abortion but that does not mean that it is not murder.
As for the rape thing.It is not that possible if a girl that is raped to actly have a baby.It is not very offen either.So I am going to say yes even in that case abortion should not be used.JM

Can someone translate it for me

sorry candy i dont know anyone that speaks Jackie

so dont feel bad no one can understand her

Sorry forgot the spaces.
Just read it by going to each (Dot .) and stoping and reading on.It should help you understand it better!JM

Look if a girl got raped and didnt know she was pregnant till 8 weeks after the pregnancy..what then!

Jackie, pregnancy by rape is possible. It's extremely rare but it does happen. About 200 a year in the US supposedly.

Also I already explained that before the end of the 8th week the embryo is technically not a baby, and more than half of all abortions occur during that period.

Well i know pregnancy threw rape can happen.