Tony Stark and Batman Vs The Justice League & Avengers

Lmao... not happening.

Originally posted by carver9
Lmao... not happening.

Originally posted by abhilegend
BTW, Superman tanked and absorbed a hypernova too.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/newreply.php?s=&action=newreply&postid=16393363

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yeah, the only time I see someone trying to argue it is Baziemarc123/Alberto. And even we go by his lowballing, it still had energy 2,500,000x more powerful than a supernova.......So I don't think jbl will like it

Aside from that. It's power also is stated able to *at least* destroy half of the galaxy

https://ibb.co/4ZkzHsp

Combined with what ABHI posted, it seems to imply the potent of Mageddon's anti-sun was greater than half of the galaxy

One “standard” supernova releases around 1 x 10^44 joules, so if that explosion would have to take out the entire Milky Way, it would need to be powered by around 57.3 million supernovae. Ouch.

I've seen too many arguments against that showing. I also agreed with Alberto perspective on it. Nice try though.

Originally posted by carver9
I've seen too many arguments against that showing. I also agreed with Alberto perspective on it. Nice try though.

So you agreed that you at least need to have 2.5 million supernovae energy to have a shot resisting Superman's energy-absorbing? 😆

I want to see a scan showing the armor had that energy

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Oh, I don't think Iron Man does better, like someone said earlier, Tony is all style and that's gonna get him beat up bad.

I do believe prep is an amazing thing and a great equalizer and I would put it up there with speed and instantaneous hf or tp as far as assets in a fight go. It's still not an instant win.

Especially when the opponent isn't holding back or written properly (without too much PIS/CIS). Superman in "Batman: Hush" was able to counter Kryptonite Ring on the Batman's hand by using his freeze breath and last long enough to put Batman in position where he could have getting crushed under a weight of an ambulance.

Batman himself states that Superman could just speed-blitz him and squash with his super-strength, but he doesn't do that even when he's mind-controlled "because Clark deep-down is a good man, and deep-down I'm not".

Originally posted by Alex_Ferrana
Especially when the opponent isn't holding back or written properly (without too much PIS/CIS). Superman in "Batman: Hush" was able to counter Kryptonite Ring on the Batman's hand by using his freeze breath and last long enough to put Batman in position where he could have getting crushed under a weight of an ambulance.

Batman himself states that Superman could just speed-blitz him and squash with his super-strength, but he doesn't do that even when he's mind-controlled "because Clark deep-down is a good man, and deep-down I'm not".

Except Batman's prep still stopped Superman in that instance.

Batman can solo Hickman avengers carvster

I personally don’t believe either can do it, but Batman would have an easier time if it were at all possible. Superman, Flash, Wonder Woman, J’onn are so fast that they would individually be able to remove Tony’s armor before his mind could register what happened.

The Star Brand would turn Batman to ash. Hulk’s thunder clap attack would KO him or worse. Thor’s lightning speaks for itself. Monica is so fast that he would not know what hit him. Black Panther with his best tech should defeat Batman. Wanda…?

I just can’t see either of them winning this.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Except Batman's prep still stopped Superman in that instance.

Superman was still holding back and could just blow up a gas main with his heat vision with Batman and himself (and be fine after that, unlike Bats), but refused when Batman said him it would kill innocent people.

Batman's prep was useful, but Bats didn't exactly won. Onlt lasted long enough before Catwoman executed a part of the plan with Lois Lane to make Superman broke free from Poison Ivy's mind control.

Originally posted by Alex_Ferrana
Superman was still holding back and could just blow up a gas main with his heat vision with Batman and himself (and be fine after that, unlike Bats), but refused when Batman said him it would kill innocent people.

Batman's prep was useful, but Bats didn't exactly won. Onlt lasted long enough before Catwoman executed a part of the plan with Lois Lane to make Superman broke free from Poison Ivy's mind control.

Yeah. But that's the thing - it stopped Superman. Which is what it was meant to do. So was successful.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah. But that's the thing - it stopped Superman. Which is what it was meant to do. So was successful.

Correct.

Originally posted by HumbleServant
Tony Stark (with Batmans knowledge of the Justice League) must find a way to beat the Justice League

Batman (with Tony Starks knowledge of the Avengers) must find a way to beat the avengers

They can face the team members one by one

Who does better?

So for instance, Tony would have the plans for Batman's Justice Buster armor and Bruce would have the plans for Stark's Adamantium Sentinels?

Originally posted by ODG
So I assume "knowledge" includes all the actual countermeasures they've each designed?

So for instance, Tony would have the plans for Batman's Justice Buster armor and Bruce would have the plans for Stark's Adamantium Sentinels?

Does Stark have team wrecking prep feats?

Also, do the respective teams know Stark/Wayne are coming for them? The Justice Buster, for example, relied on Flash being compromised and not at his best.

Originally posted by HumbleServant
They have knowledge of the characters from each other and what their countermeasures did but not how to build them

But “to the extent that countermeasures can be built” is a big if. A lot of Bruce’s prep relies on psychological warfare which is not Tony’s forte.

Also the Avengers are, for the most part, plainly less powerful. The Justice League basically require exploiting weaknesses in their personality because so many members are functionally invincible.

So… Batman wins.

Originally posted by Stoic
I personally don’t believe either can do it, but Batman would have an easier time if it were at all possible. Superman, Flash, Wonder Woman, J’onn are so fast that they would individually be able to remove Tony’s armor before his mind could register what happened.

The Star Brand would turn Batman to ash. Hulk’s thunder clap attack would KO him or worse. Thor’s lightning speaks for itself. Monica is so fast that he would not know what hit him. Black Panther with his best tech should defeat Batman. Wanda…?

I just can’t see either of them winning this.

Sounds plausible. Looks like in a forum fight these characters wins. But inside the comics Batman always wins with prep time. Because he is Batman.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also, do the respective teams know Stark/Wayne are coming for them? The Justice Buster, for example, relied on Flash being compromised and not at his best.

And I remember how Batman was scared when infected Superman engaged into a fight. Batman was really begging if Clark isn't nearby him. He was wrong.

And Superman destroyed that Justice Buster armor. Batman,however, eventually won via plot device (Kryptonite Gum, lol).

He won via prep.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He won via prep.

Doesn't contradicting. Plot device itself isn't a bad thing when it used and executed properly.