MCU Kurse vs. MCU Ikaris

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Originally posted by KingD19
It's pretty disingenuous to say it's made out of "rock". You think the Celestials would put their hyper advanced humanoid androids on a ship made of "rock"? That's like saying Mjolnir is made out of "stone". Keep in mind it was durable enough to have the city of Babylon built on top of it. Thats millions of tons just sitting on it for centuries with no problem.
That's what it appeared to be. It's not my burden to prove otherwise. Mjolnir in MCU is metal (not stone) plus it has feats, rock ship doesn't.

The total weight of something isn't supported by a small part but rather evenly distributed on the whole. It's about pressure, not total force. Stone/rock can withstand more than 16,000 tons of force per cubic meter (3x3x3 feet).
You have to prove that the ship supported more weight than 16,000 tons on such a small cube portion.

Originally posted by h1a8
Ikaris blast damaged rock. Kurse is more durable than rock.

Are you implying that being cut by an alien sword (more durable than man made materials) logically proves blast will hurt Kurse?

Let's start there and keep it simple.

I can post feats showing ALL deviants (even the beginning ones) being resistant to the blasts.


Are you implying that Asgardians have access to better technology and materials than beings who basically create life across the galaxy just to help them get stronger? You're still being disingenuous and acting like the Domo, a starship made by Celestials is some rinky dink rock hopper. Like I said we might as well call Mjolnir a ballpeen hammer.

Ikaris eyebeams were only pushing back deviants from what I remember. But I have only seen the first half

Originally posted by h1a8
Ikaris blast damaged rock. Kurse is more durable than rock.

Are you implying that being cut by an alien sword (more durable than man made materials) logically proves blast will hurt Kurse?

Let's start there and keep it simple.

I can post feats showing ALL deviants (even the beginning ones) being resistant to the blasts.

Go ahead. Please post feats of ALL deviants being unharmed by continuous blasts from Ikaris.

And yes, I'm saying Kurse getting cut by an alien elven sword proves that he can get damaged by Ikaris' blasts. Why? Because Ikaris' blasts have better feats than that alien sword. Like easily cutting up the Eternals spaceship.

And claiming that spaceship is just made of plain rock is about as stupid as claiming Kurse is made of plain rock.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Ikaris eyebeams were only pushing back deviants from what I remember. But I have only seen the first half

Some of them got cut in half by the blasts, some needed multiple blasts before they went down. But all of them were getting harmed by it and none of them could simply shrug off multiple or continuous blasts. Except for that one Deviant who kept on healing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeY3z_VRdjE

Originally posted by FrothByte
Remember that Loki was able to stab him clean through with an elven blade.

He effortlessly stabbed Thor too.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Go ahead. Please post feats of ALL deviants being unharmed by continuous blasts from Ikaris.

And yes, I'm saying Kurse getting cut by an alien elven sword proves that he can get damaged by Ikaris' blasts. Why? Because Ikaris' blasts have better feats than that alien sword. Like easily cutting up the Eternals spaceship.

And claiming that spaceship is just made of plain rock is about as stupid as claiming Kurse is made of plain rock.

Steel blade has feats. We know how strong it is. Eleven blade is even stronger, or at least no weaker.

If you are relating eye blast durability with cutting durability then I can relate eye blast durability with blunt force durability (which is a better comparison).

Rocky ship has no durability feats. So you can't assume it was more durable than rock and at the same time assume that elvn blade is not significantly more durable than a steel blade. Don't be a hypocrite.

If ship has massive durability because it was created by advanced being then elvn blade has massive durability for the same reasons.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Some of them got cut in half by the blasts, some needed multiple blasts before they went down. But all of them were getting harmed by it and none of them could simply shrug off multiple or continuous blasts. Except for that one Deviant who kept on healing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeY3z_VRdjE

The vast majority of the time the blasts did absolutely no visible damage. Deviants was stabbed too (same as Kurse). Kurse is far above those deviants.

https://youtu.be/ZeY3z_VRdjE

Originally posted by Psychotron
He effortlessly stabbed Thor too.

Yeah but not clean through. Besides, I never claimed that Thor was invulnerable. Heck, I'm pretty sure Thor also can't withstand Ikaris' blast for an indefinite amount of time.