Doctor .Manhattan vs Rune King Thor

Originally posted by Galan007
Mangog was also weakened, as Loki had been siphoning his power away (I know Stoic is aware of this, as it has been brought up literally dozens of times.)

Yes. We have posted about that over 9000 times.

I believe what Stoic is trying to say in his post is that it wouldn't have mattered.

While that is possible... we need to work with what we've got. Feats. Not implied power and Rage's wet dreams.

Originally posted by Galan007
In terms of RKT's "feats", that's about the worst one you can use to try and argue how powerful he was.

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes. We have posted about that over 9000 times.

I believe what Stoic is trying to say in his post is that it wouldn't have mattered.

While that is possible... we need to work with what we've got. Feats. Not implied power and Rage's wet dreams.

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I still think RKT's showing against an amped Loki is his best legitimate feat, despite the fact that we really don't know what level Loki was operating at... He was presumably quite powerful, though.

RKT's other showings, like: outplaying TWSAIS and smashing the Loom of Fate/ending the Ragnarok cycle aren't really quantifiable "feats" in the same sense... With *all* context considered, of course.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Thank you abhi for always clearing this up. RKT is the most misconstrued character in comicdom. Outside of KMC people treat him like he's multiversal. 😆

...But headcanon/ambiguity/conjecture aside, RKT is around the level of a well-written Odin. Perhaps slightly above. Again, with *all* context considered, nothing from the story itself slingshots RKT into this 'abstract++ tier', like some of his fans believe.

Originally posted by Galan007

That's because many of the RKT supporters like to apply their own headcanon(in the absence of supporting feats) when they discuss him. Moreover, they tend to ignore some of the very important context behind the few showings he does have.

...But headcanon/ambiguity/conjecture aside, RKT is around the level of a well-written Odin. Perhaps slightly above. Again, with *all* context considered, nothing from the story itself puts RKT into this 'abstract-tier', like some of his fans believe.

What bothered me is how long this misconception has been going on. When I first read Ragnarok I couldn't understand the hype, but was told "I read it wrong". 😆

I hope this Rune King Thor nonsense dies forever. It's so annoying.

Doctor Manhattan masturbates the cosmos into reality or whatever

RKT exists outside of it but is probably Chaos/Order level by implied. A bit above Odin but far below Manhattan.

They can't hurt each other I would imagine. Manhattan due to his power level, RKT due to his location or lack of in/out of reality or wtfever metaphorical bs was going on.

Thor and Asgards very nature/history limits him to pretty much a universal level being at the highest and Im ok with that. I would rather that than some Mary Sue boring ass goody two shoes character who the writers keep having to force higher and higher to unrelateable levels.

He's not beating Manhattan in any kind of power weilding contest.
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Originally posted by MrMind
don't change the subject, you claimed manhattan remade everything. He didn't

Where did I say that, you retarded idiot?

Manhattan is as far beyond Odin and RKT as possible. The dude literally rebooted entire dc multiverse with a wave of his hands and a portion of his power made Wally west able to repair entire multiverse.

not saying he can't, but he didn't, he failed to do so once because of perpetua. whether he can without interference remains unknown

just like this again, wally "FAILED" to repair the multiverse, because of batman who laughs

since when are failing to do something a feat?

this is more about correcting you

Shut the **** up if you can't even read properly.

Originally posted by MrMind
just pointing out errors qwerty

abhi pretends like manhattan restarted the omniverse when he didn't.

Originally posted by Stoic
Was Odin ever able to change the fates? Was Odin ever able to stand before Mangog and allow him to beat on him without suffering damage? You want to ignore Thor’s death and the true effect that it had on him as opposed to Odin being at death’s door but not having truly died. When Thor passed through the veil he saw things that Odin could never see. The ones that sit in the shadows were themselves well above Odin. RK Thor being what he became was in turn well above them. Odin was a speck in comparison my friend.

Odin has done everything RKT has done and more which RKT couldn't.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Even feat wise RKT isn't more powerful than Odin.

RKT makes a weakened Mangog cease to exist.

Odin causes a full power Mangog to cease to exist.

RKT defeats Loki (Mind you, Loki never said he had siphoned the magic of Asgard, just that he was Asgard now).

Odin defeats Loki and Absorbing Man who actually became Asgard.

https://m.imgur.com/a/LwbMJm0

Also RKT said he can't reverse what's already happened.

While Odin has reversed time before Thor killed several heroes in Thor First Thunder.

So yeah.

Handbooks confirm the same.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Two different Handbooks confirm the same.

"Thor sacrificed his life to gain the Odin's power and wisdom".

Originally posted by abhilegend
Another handbook confirming the same as what I said.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Doctor Manhattan masturbates the cosmos into reality or whatever

RKT exists outside of it but is probably Chaos/Order level by implied. A bit above Odin but far below Manhattan.

They can't hurt each other I would imagine. Manhattan due to his power level, RKT due to his location or lack of in/out of reality or wtfever metaphorical bs was going on.

Thor and Asgards very nature/history limits him to pretty much a universal level being at the highest and Im ok with that. I would rather that than some Mary Sue boring ass goody two shoes character who the writers keep having to force higher and higher to unrelateable levels.

He's not beating Manhattan in any kind of power weilding contest.
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Originally posted by Stoic
I’m trying to learn here. I’m wondering why you believe that it would be impossible for Rune King Thor to be powerful enough to stalemate Doctor M? Also, would you be able to rate RK Thor’s level of power? I mean, what tier would you place him in based on canon?

The premise behind his level of power lies in the sacrifice that he willingly gave. He gave all, and in return he knew all being grafted to the Runes themselves. Not the same as in the case of Odin who only gave an eye.

Keeping in mind, Doctor M does the things that he does because of his omniscience. Sound familiar?

The dude literally rebooted entire dc multiverse with a wave of his hands

this never happened abhi, stop yelling like an idiot

**** off idiot.