Firestorm vs Silver Surfer

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

In your dreams. Call me when Surfer can transmute theoretical mass.

https://imgur.io/a/08sHSyO

Uh-huh. Surely Cable was doing nothing

Hahaha that’s easy piecy for Surfer. His done this a few times.

Here’s another example of theoretical yield … mass …

A sun…

In fact he can actually make somethin with a theoretical yield.

A sun…

Or heck! Something that has no actual theoretical mass.

A black hole…

You do know what they are referring to right in your scan? 🤔 What is theoretical mass.

Originally posted by abhilegend
If Surfer goes out of control, he can transmute a planet. If Firestorm goes out of control, he can destroy the entire universe.

Gee, I wonder who's more powerful.

Sure he does, here’s another example of planetary matter manipulation.

He has not only done this once but twice or 3x I think and speaking of fast energy/matter manipulation.

Here’s another one, “blink of an eye”

So yeah Surfer is by far a better MM, faster in gunning it down, more POWERFUL overall.

Originally posted by Smurph
It's a shared feat but that just means they were both working extremely fast. It's not like Cable could have made Surfer faster.

Originally posted by Ambient
Hahaha that’s easy piecy for Surfer. His done this a few times.

Here’s another example of theoretical yield … mass …

A sun…

In fact he can actually make somethin with a theoretical yield.

A sun…

Or heck! Something that has no actual theoretical mass.

A black hole…

You do know what they are referring to right in your scan? 🤔 What is theoretical mass.

Sure he does, here’s another example of planetary matter manipulation.

He has not only done this once but twice or 3x I think and speaking of fast energy/matter manipulation.

Here’s another one, “blink of an eye”

So yeah Surfer is by far a better MM, faster in gunning it down, more POWERFUL overall.

You're hilarious.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The keyword is shared feat. Firestorm once made the sun and Earth tremble by simply colliding with Brimstone, that doesn't mean he could simply oneshot him.

Do you understand that?

Not to mention Surfer wasn't actually able to stabilise the sun on his own, he had to absorb extra energy to do it. Still lying about it?

Why was Cable giving Surfer speed???

Originally posted by Smurph
The speed isn't shared though???

Do you understand that?

Anyway, Surfer is hardly going to be able to blitz Firestorm if that's what you want to say.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why was Cable giving Surfer speed???

I wanted to say what I said, which is that Surfer is a much faster matter/energy manipulator

Originally posted by Smurph
I wanted to say what I said, which is that Surfer is a much faster matter/energy manipulator

lol what

Cable and Surfer vaporized a populated island at an atomic level and instantaneously reversed the explosions and damage. Then they did the same thing to the pacific fleet. While fighting each other.

No need to lowball Surfer's speed.

Originally posted by abhilegend
None of the "feats" you posted are actually matter manipulation. What does Surfer phasing or creating small suns or heck almost dying in a black hole supposed to show?

You're hilarious.

Huh! Sun black hole they’re matter dude, manipulating they’re uniformity mass change they’re make up which Surfer did.

Isn’t Surfer’s make up made of matter? Phasing himself out of existence requires him to manipulate that therefore a matter manipulation feat.

All this is a good example of theoretical yield a rebuttal to your claim.

Stay with the argument Abhi.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not to mention Surfer wasn't actually able to stabilise the sun on his own, he had to absorb extra energy to do it. Still lying about it?

Low ball at its finest.

Read the comics Abhi.

Comics are fricken' stupid.
That's why we love 'em, right?
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RIGHT?

We be nerdz 😆

Originally posted by Smurph
lol what

Cable and Surfer vaporized a populated island at an atomic level and instantaneously reversed the explosions and damage. Then they did the same thing to the pacific fleet. While fighting each other.

No need to lowball Surfer's speed.

John's Firestorm is universal, and stated to be the most powerful hero on earth. I'd say he's overall more powerful than Surfer.

Originally posted by Ambient
Huh! Sun black hole they’re matter dude, manipulating they’re uniformity mass change they’re make up which Surfer did.

Isn’t Surfer’s make up made of matter? Phasing himself out of existence requires him to manipulate that therefore a matter manipulation feat.

All this is a good example of theoretical yield a rebuttal to your claim.

Stay with the argument Abhi.

Phasing is supposed to be an impressive matter manipulation feat?

No, it doesn't.

Originally posted by Ambient
Low ball at its finest.

Read the comics Abhi.

Believe me, Surfer has much more embarrassing low showings as it is.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Vaporized an island? It was pacific Fleet.

Scan #1, they're doing the same thing but to Providence.

Originally posted by Smurph
I wanted to say what I said, which is that Surfer is a much faster matter/energy manipulator

I wasn't sure what it being a shared feat had to do with anything. They were both reforming everything instantaneously, so unless Cable was lending Surfer speed, Surfer was doing his reforming on his own steam.