Originally posted by h1a8They have to break through the thick part of the door.
So all they have to do is overpower the hinge mechanism and also be able to slide the door forward?I don't see Cyclops, Ikaris, and WW doing it
Everyone else can but with varying degrees of difficulty.Note: I'm assuming Shazam is a peer to Superman. But if we go by feats only then he doesn't either.
Originally posted by HumbleServant
They have to break through the thick part of the door.
So break through the door literally, assuming it is held by an infinite force (to prevent it from being pushed away)?
In that case, I don't see anyone here doing it. I'll check with some physicists on the matter. Watching videos of 200 ton hydraulic press, I noticed they can only manage to compress ball bearing steel to about 1inch and then fail to compress further (press failed). So imagine something 96in thick.
All of these characters are stronger than steel (some of them vastly so) which means they'll be able to eventually get through a steel door regardless of how thick it is.
Fastest ones to accomplish it would either be those with weapons (Thor, WW, Steppenwolf, Aquaman) or those with energy blasts (Ikaris, Cyborg). Those who only have barehands will come in last but they'll still get out.
It would be like asking how long Brock Lesnar can tear through an 8 foot block of styrofoam. Then asking how long it takes him if he had an axe or a welding torch with him.
Edit: Did not account for superspeed. That should give others an advantage.
Originally posted by FrothByte
All of these characters are stronger than steel (some of them vastly so) which means they'll be able to eventually get through a steel door regardless of how thick it is.Fastest ones to accomplish it would either be those with weapons (Thor, WW, Steppenwolf, Aquaman) or those with energy blasts (Ikaris, Cyborg). Those who only have barehands will come in last but they'll still get out.
It would be like asking how long Brock Lesnar can tear through an 8 foot block of styrofoam. Then asking how long it takes him if he had an axe or a welding torch with him.
Edit: Did not account for superspeed. That should give others an advantage.
You fail to understand my post. A hydraulic press is stronger than steel. Yet it fails to compress a 2in diameter ball bearing any further after 1in.
The more you compress something then the more durable it becomes.
Based off the OP's stipulations, they have to break through the door. That means they have to push through it (causing it to compress).
Humans are stronger than paper (we can easily rip it with almost no effort). But try to rip or puncture 50 sheets of paper. See the difference.
Lastly steel is not like Styrofoam to any of these characters. It is much stronger and more Malleable than that to them. It will bend (compress) before it would break or tear.
Originally posted by h1a8
You fail to understand my post. A hydraulic press is stronger than steel. Yet it fails to compress a 2in diameter ball bearing any further after 1in.The more you compress something then the more durable it becomes.
Based off the OP's stipulations, they have to break through the door. That means they have to push through it (causing it to compress).
Humans are stronger than paper (we can easily rip it with almost no effort). But try to rip or puncture 50 sheets of paper. See the difference.
Lastly steel is not like Styrofoam to any of these characters. It is much stronger and more Malleable than that to them. It will bend (compress) before it would break or tear.
Who says anything about compressing the steel? Some of these characters have onscreen feats of tearing steel apart with their fingers. Then there’s the weapons, or are you saying that a knife has no chance as eventually cutting through 50 sheets of paper?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Who says anything about compressing the steel? Some of these characters have onscreen feats of tearing steel apart with their fingers. Then there’s the weapons, or are you saying that a knife has no chance as eventually cutting through 50 sheets of paper?
How are they going the tear a solid door? There is nothing to grip. The moment they compress the steel it becomes astronomically more durable. We don't know how much more durable the weapons are in comparison to steel. They could be 3x more durable for all we know. That's still not enough to prevent them from being mangled after awhile.
Originally posted by NemeBro
You punch it and knock a slab of steel off and do this until you get through. You don't need to compress it when you can break it.Most or all of them can eventually get through. Some, like Thor, Hulk, and Superman, can probably do it in one blow.
It's not made out of slabs but one solid piece of metal. A punch will create a dent. The area of the dent would be far more durable than before.
Wait, what feat does Thor, Superman, and Hulk have to say they can punch through an 8ft thick steel door in one blow?
H1 doesn't understand that steel can be torn and ripped, especially when force is applied in an instance as say with a punch or kick.
You also don't need to be stronger than steel to rip through it, eg ice isn't stronger than steel, but ice can rip through the steel hull of ships because the steel reaches a limit and can no longer support the weight (of ice) being pushed against it.
#science
Originally posted by h1a8
How are they going the tear a solid door? There is nothing to grip. The moment they compress the steel it becomes astronomically more durable. We don't know how much more durable the weapons are in comparison to steel. They could be 3x more durable for all we know. That's still not enough to prevent them from being mangled after awhile.
The same way I tear through a solid block of styrofoam. I dig my fingers in and start tearing chunks of it off.
Originally posted by Robtard
H1 doesn't understand that steel can be torn and ripped, especially when force is applied in an instance as say with a punch or kick.You also don't need to be stronger than steel to rip through it, eg ice isn't stronger than steel, but ice can rip through the steel hull of ships because the steel reaches a limit and can no longer support the weight (of ice) being pushed against it.
#science
Steel will deform before breaking. It's highly malleable.
You can't break steel by denting it in less than its thickness. A punch or kick to the door will simply dent the steel, not break it.
Ice has variable durability. Ice can be stronger than steel if cold enough.