Shamima Begum, if what is coming out is true, this is a horrific example of cover up

Started by Darth Thor2 pages
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
F*ck her. She's still a degenerate piece of shït.

Its not that black and white. Look at the floor doors its opened:

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/11/british-muslims-citizenship-reduced-to-second-class-status-says-thinktank

Theres now an inequality of how white nationals and immigrants can be treated for the same crime. In fact Shemima Begum was British born. I find it very unlikely that a white national whose parents were also white nationals would have had their citizenship revoked for the same crime.

floodgates*

Re: Shamima Begum, if what is coming out is true, this is a horrific example of cover up

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/02/shamima-begum-trafficking-spy-home-office-citizenship?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

claims Canada asked Britain to cover up its role in the operation and that British authorities went along. Canada announced an investigation into the allegations on Thursday, while the British government has said it does not comment on security matters.

The Guardian is essentially the UK equivalent of RT, is a state propaganda tool.

Re: Re: Shamima Begum, if what is coming out is true, this is a horrific example of cover up

Originally posted by cdtm
The Guardian is essentially the UK equivalent of RT, is a state propaganda tool.

Such true
So facts
Many believe

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Such true
So facts
Many believe

And your proof of "Russian disinformation" is...

I'll wait.

Point being, one who blindly believes "credible sources" who offer no proof of their claims, is not a good judge of disinformation. Matt Lee is an AP reporter who actually knows his job, as evidenced by him grilling US State representative Ned Price on some proof of Russian crisis actors beyond "Because I said so."

is it possible? an even lower wattage version of surt? not even once laid?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
is it possible? an even lower wattage version of surt? not even once laid?

All you ever do is cheerlead the left, and spout off nonsense.

Troll away, you pod.

Originally posted by cdtm
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

shhhh 🙂

^^^ Henthforth ignored.

Here's a good example of TheGuardian disinformation. The writer is Dimitri Lascaris, a member of Canada's Green Party.

https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/why-is-the-guardian-promoting-more-pentagon-propaganda

Britain’s leading ‘centre-left’ newspaper just offered us a textbook example of the liberal media’s embrace of Pentagon propaganda.

In an article titled “US Navy to adopt ‘more assertive posture’ against China and Russia,” the Guardian reports that the US Marine Corps, Navy and Coast Guard have declared their intention to “accept calculated tactical risks and adopt a more assertive posture” toward Chinese and Russian naval forces. According to Guardian reporter Helen Davidson, the Pentagon intends to “maintain strategic advantage” over the Chinese navy by modernizing its naval forces with smaller, more agile and even remotely piloted ships.

Armed with the facts, any rational, objective observer would conclude that the Pentagon’s heightened belligerence toward Chinese and Russian naval forces is unwarranted and will only exacerbate the risk of a hot war between nuclear-armed states.

The existential risks posed by such a war would be a matter of the utmost concern to an informed citizenry, but nowhere in Davidson’s 500-word screed do we find the information needed to evaluate objectively the Pentagon’s rationale for its latest exercise in sabre-rattling.

On the contrary, Davidson uncritically regurgitates the Pentagon’s dark warning that the “rules-based international order is once again under assault.”

“Rules-based” international order? Would that be the same “rules-based” international order that the US government defiled when it launched a war of aggression on Iraq, or when it armed to the teeth a Saudi-led coalition that is prosecuting a genocidal war on Yemen, or when it conferred upon the apartheid state of Israel the largest military aid package in US history?

While advising her readers that China is “in the midst of a rapid modernisation and expansion of its military power,” Davidson mentions nowhere that US military spending remains more than twice as great as that of China and Russia combined. She seems oblivious to the possibility that America’s stratospheric military spending is fuelling a global arms race, and that China might simply be defending itself from America’s militarism and hegemonic ambition.

Without explanation, Davidson also claims that China’s navy is the largest in the world. As measured by number of ships, that may well be true, but as measured by ship tonnage, America’s navy is nearly five times larger than that of China.

In the vitally important category of aircraft carriers, the Chinese navy is vastly inferior to that of the United States. The US now operates 10 Nimitz-class “supercarriers” which dwarf all other carriers worldwide, both in size and capability. Each such carrier is powered by two nuclear reactors, providing them with virtually unlimited range. In addition to the Nimitz-class, the US Navy also operates nine landing helicopter dock ships of the Wasp and America classes.

By contrast, China has two aircraft carriers, neither of which is nuclear-powered.

Similarly, Russia possesses only one aging aircraft carrier whose condition is so decrepit that it broke down at sea in 2012 and is now accompanied by a tug boat whenever it travels overseas.

Because none of these inconvenient facts finds their way into Davidson’s reporting, her article reinforces the false impression that America is threatened by Chinese and Russian expansionism and that the Pentagon is justified in adopting an even more aggressive posture toward Chinese naval forces in the South China Sea.

With liberal ‘journalism’ such as this, who needs US government propaganda?

Dimitri Lascaris is a lawyer, journalist, activist and member of the Canadian Dimension coordinating committee. He was a candidate in the federal Greens’ leadership race, and finished second with just over 10,000 votes.

TheGuardian is nothing more then an establishment outlet.

Originally posted by cdtm
^^^ Henthforth ignored.

just like the last 39 times you pretended to ignore me. did you remember to report me like a phaggot? of course you did

Originally posted by cdtm
And your proof of "Russian disinformation" is...

I'll wait.

Point being, one who blindly believes "credible sources" who offer no proof of their claims, is not a good judge of disinformation. Matt Lee is an AP reporter who actually knows his job, as evidenced by him grilling US State representative Ned Price on some proof of Russian crisis actors beyond "Because I said so."

I was talking about your extensive knowledge of the British print media and their political leanings. The fact that you think the Guardian is shilling for the tory government speaks volumes about your worldly wisdom.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Its not that black and white. Look at the floor doors its opened:

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/11/british-muslims-citizenship-reduced-to-second-class-status-says-thinktank

Theres now an inequality of how white nationals and immigrants can be treated for the same crime. In fact Shemima Begum was British born. I find it very unlikely that a white national whose parents were also white nationals would have had their citizenship revoked for the same crime.

oh yeah, no doubt DT.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I was talking about your extensive knowledge of the British print media and their political leanings. The fact that you think the Guardian is shilling for the tory government speaks volumes about your worldly wisdom.
he jas no idea how stupid what he just posted is Jaden. 😂

Stopped reading after the first sentence, but nice try to gaslight. 👆

Very disingenuous of you to pull rank on expertise against an opinion you oppose, while turning a blind eye to all the barely informed and opinionated nonsense from those you agree with.

Yes, I'm sure Maga are all White Supremacists because some leftist rag said so.

I'm sure Adam Poe proves Christians and Conservatives are all vulgar depraved hypocrites as a group with his cherry picked stories, and I'm certain you wouldn't accuse someone of anti-Semitism or Ismamaphobia if they played the same game by citing examples of child abuse or other offenses from non Christian religions.

Originally posted by cdtm
Stopped reading after the first sentence, but nice try to gaslight. 👆

Very disingenuous of you to pull rank on expertise against an opinion you oppose, while turning a blind eye to all the barely informed and opinionated nonsense from those you agree with.

Yes, I'm sure Maga are all White Supremacists because some leftist rag said so.

I'm sure Adam Poe proves Christians and Conservatives are all vulgar depraved hypocrites as a group with his cherry picked stories, and I'm certain you wouldn't accuse someone of anti-Semitism or Ismamaphobia if they played the same game by citing examples of child abuse or other offenses from non Christian religions.

Translation: I got something wrong and am now using whataboutery and deflection to try and distract you from the fact that I'm an ignorant moron with no clue about the world at large