Originally posted by Test123
Not trying to lowball, just wondering if it's the damage itself or the vibrations, and even then it was Justice Lords Superman doing more damage with one strike.In my opinion Wally's Chain Lightning feat was better, he outperformed all those other heroes and destroyed the entire armour.
Originally posted by Test123
Aren't they both from the DCAU? At least that's what the wiki lists that Superman as.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not sure why Superman doing better means anything.
Yeah, but on the other hand. AM's armour also historically tanked many high level attacks( Pre-crisis heroes attacks, and SCW etc)
And IMPs also has history such as koed corrupted Nix Uotan with just fifteen hits in Multiversity
Here AM tanked thousands of it without scratch......
So you can also say this is Beyond Superman's high feat to indicate his powers.
Originally posted by Test123
Well it's in regards to scaling, Barry is landing thousands of punches IMPs backed with vibrational energy, but one punch from Superman does more damage? Doesn't that kind of look bad for Barry?
No, it is a great feat for Superman.
And how hard does that Superman hit anyways? DCAU doesn't seem to be as good as Prime Earth versions.
Harder than thousands of IMPs as shown in the issue.
Originally posted by Test123
So is this a case of AM jobbing or a high end for Barry? Kind of like when Tryant got impaled by Surfer's board, even though many other characters have tanked getting hit by his board before with little to no damage, do they now scale over Tyrant's durability or does Tyrant just suck now?
Originally posted by Test123
So is this a case of AM jobbing or a high end for Barry? Kind of like when Tryant got impaled by Surfer's board, even though many other characters have tanked getting hit by his board before with little to no damage, do they now scale over Tyrant's durability or does Tyrant just suck now?
Since in the same comic Barry did state the IMPs he throws can easily deform space-time and it's the mightiest punches in the Multiverse. AM's armor tanked it without any issue.
I mean, it's not uncommon characters suddenly get a very high showing in comics.
For example
Supergirl almost defeats AM in COIE, despite in the same story, AM stalemates Monitor who was powered up by the entire Multiverse
Or just recently, the supposedly weak DCAU characters get multiversal feats. Green Lantern shields a Multiverse destroying attack and later Flash helps to shield it by creating a vibrational field(duh) in Justice League Infinity 7
etc
All in all, this feat certainly looks good for Barry IMO. He throws thousands of IMPs and ragdolls AM momentarily.
Whether Beyond Superman outperforms him or not I don't think disqualify the feat, on the contrary, it actually makes him look good( one punch from him outperforms thousands of IMPs that can casually deform space-time and these 'most powerful punches in the Multiverse' ragdoll AM momentarily) IMO.
Originally posted by ODG
^ The entire team was wrecking Anti-Monitor's armor. Bat Lantern tore through his shoulder plate. What did Beyond Superman do amongst the team that merits him standing out from them, let alone Barry?We going to pretend Barry didn't weaken this Anti-Monitor before the team collectively dogpiled him?
Originally posted by Test123
Deforming space time isn't exactly quantifiable, and he calls them the mightiest punches yet gets outperformed by other heroes? Sounds like hyperbole, or it just means the punches aren't that mighty.
Or because Barry thought its the mightiest punch based on what he knew(which is a lot)
Or it means Beyond Superman just that powerful
Of course, if we want to use context in this story, Barry was going to against AM, whom he definitely wanted to punch as hard as possible, hence he pulled IMPs
And by your logic, we can judge how powerful the IMPs were based on its history
Wally one-shots a white martian who he stated to be Superman-level durability, with just *one* IMP. And Barry's punches should be at least that powerful since he wanted to punch AM
https://ibb.co/jHVQy90
https://ibb.co/zbNMRvZ
https://ibb.co/tYqr0Mn
We also have Red Racer and a bunch of Flashes one-shot corrupted Nix Uotan, with only fifteen IMPs
https://ibb.co/5nRPGzq
https://ibb.co/zhKSjxy
And don't forget Barry also temporarily ragdolls AM, while a lot of pre-crisis heroes' attacks were completely useless against AM
https://ibb.co/jLHyW4T