Team Chaos King vs Team Darkseid

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Team Chaos King vs Team Darkseid

Chaos King, Oblivion, Scrier vs Darkseid, Moebius, Black Racer

Which team wins? Would it even be close?

Since supposedly Chaos King was just a part of Oblivion and Scrier is less powerful than either, T1 is basically Oblivion vs Darkseid, Moebius, and BLack Racer.

Either it's a draw since Oblivion is oblivion or T2 uses some cosmic shenanigans to beat Oblivion for the win.

Oblivion has very few feats to suggest he could win here 🤷🤷

Oblivion solos

Originally posted by MrMind
Oblivion solos

Oblivion couldn't beat Infinity in his own realm with better backup than she had.

Yeah, Oblivion is all hype

except he surpasses chaos king and was implied to break the fourth wall

So She-Hulk level?

Originally posted by abhilegend
So She-Hulk level?

more like mxy level and even then im lowballing oblivion

Originally posted by MrMind
Oblivion solos

Indeed.

Team 2

oblivion is basically geb/pralaya status in marvel

the void before creation/multiverse, everything in marvel are part of his creations

chaos king is a tiny aspect of oblivion, and chaos king by himself is on the level of multi-eternity

Originally posted by MrMind
oblivion is basically geb/pralaya status in marvel

the void before creation/multiverse, everything in marvel are part of his creations

chaos king is a tiny aspect of oblivion, and chaos king by himself is on the level of multi-eternity


HE COULDN'T BEAT INFINITY IN HIS OWN REALM WITH BETTER BACKUP THAN SHE HAD.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Originally posted by MrMind
except he surpasses chaos king and was implied to break the fourth wall
Originally posted by abhilegend
So She-Hulk level?

This.

People need to learn that metatextual powers is highly contextual and not a shortcut to greater power.

Originally posted by MrMind
oblivion is basically geb/pralaya status in marvel

the void before creation/multiverse, everything in marvel are part of his creations

chaos king is a tiny aspect of oblivion, and chaos king by himself is on the level of multi-eternity


Not really. Oblivion is on par with Eternity, Infinity, and Death. Chaos King is marginally stronger than an amped Skyfather or Galactus.

The entire arc ended with Chaos King getting trapped in a pocket universe where he destroyed everything.

Originally posted by Astner
He wasn't compared to Eternity in power. Eternity made it clear that he simply couldn't fight him for pseudo-philosophical reasons.

Eternity would clearly win, since the Chaos King was a skyfather-level threat.

And if this wasn't made clear enough, it's even explained in Scarlet Witch #13 that the Chaos King was nowhere near Eternity in terms of power.

Originally posted by Galan007
Also worth noting that they ultimately beat Chaos King by allowing him to think he'd "won"... And they accomplished this by placing CK in his own universe(singular) without his knowledge, of which he absorbed/overtook:

Point being: an entity that was truly multiversal would surely know the difference between overtaking one universe vs. overtaking infinite universes.


Now, to be fair, I think the New Gods are on part with the Chaos King and Scrier, while Oblivion is on an entirely different level. So I'd still give it to team one. But the Obivlion and Chaos King wank needs to stop.

Originally posted by Astner
This.

People need to learn that metatextual powers is highly contextual and not a shortcut to greater power.

Not really. Oblivion is on par with Eternity, Infinity, and Death. Chaos King is marginally stronger than an amped Skyfather or Galactus.

The entire arc ended with Chaos King getting trapped in a pocket universe where he destroyed everything.

Now, to be fair, I think the New Gods are on part with the Chaos King and Scrier, while Oblivion is on an entirely different level. So I'd still give it to team one. But the Obivlion and Chaos King wank needs to stop.


Oblivion is hardly on another level.

Originally posted by MrMind
oblivion is basically geb/pralaya status in marvel

the void before creation/multiverse, everything in marvel are part of his creations

chaos king is a tiny aspect of oblivion, and chaos king by himself is on the level of multi-eternity


😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oblivion is hardly on another level.

I disagree. I think he's one of the top-tier abstracts alongside Eternity.
Originally posted by Astner

- Quasar #25.

Although, I agree with you that he doesn't have much in terms of feats.

Originally posted by Astner
I disagree. I think he's one of the top-tier abstracts alongside Eternity.

- Quasar #25.

Although, I agree with you that he doesn't have much in terms of feats.


So below Spectre level?

Originally posted by Astner
I disagree. I think he's one of the top-tier abstracts alongside Eternity.

- Quasar #25.

Although, I agree with you that he doesn't have much in terms of feats.


Thank you for posting those scans. Keep in mind it was Infinity with Quasar as her avatar with nohting but Cosmic Awareness. VS Oblivion, in his own realm, with Maelstrom as his avatar who also had the abstract Anomaly's power PLUS the QUantum Bands augmenting his own kinetic powers PLUS Cosmic Awareness.

Sad.

Originally posted by zopzop
Thank you for posting those scans. Keep in mind it was Infinity with Quasar as her avatar with nohting but Cosmic Awareness. VS Oblivion, in his own realm, with Maelstrom as his avatar who also had the abstract Anomaly's power PLUS the QUantum Bands augmenting his own kinetic powers PLUS Cosmic Awareness.

Sad.


There's another argument to be made here.

According to Infinity (in the penultimate scan above) Maelstrom would've supplanted Oblivion had he succeeded in his mission.

In an alternate future this happened. And the then ascended Maelstrom fought Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet for the dominion of the universe, reinforcing that:

Ascended Maelstrom ≈ Infinity Gauntlet > Eternity ≈ Oblivion.

Originally posted by Astner


- Quasar #30.