Originally posted by Jaden_3.0
Anyone seen this yet? Released here today. Its being slated in reviews as one of the worst MCU movies. Only the 2nd to be rated rotten on RT
Watching it tonight
Better be wrong, otherwise Phase 5 is starting with a turd. Not good.
Phase 4 had a lot of turds. Maybe turds are the MCU future.
Originally posted by Robtard
Probably what happens when movie after movie brings in HUGE profits. They get lazy and stop tying.
The problem is this whole multiverse shite. By its very nature its invites lazy writing. Nothing has any consequence because any protagonist can just be replaced by their counterpart from a different universe. I can almost guarantee they've already rewritten stories down the line because they've seen how people have reacted to phase 4. Which means they'll bring back Tony Stark if RDJ is willing. This will essentially erase the main consequence of the entire infinity saga (fewer people give two fùcks about Romanov's death and absolutely no one gives a single fůck about Vision)
Besides changing course due to fan feedback never goes well. See the DCEU, Prometheus saga, Star Wars sequels
Originally posted by Jaden_3.0
The problem is this whole multiverse shite. By its very nature its invites lazy writing. Nothing has any consequence because any protagonist can just be replaced by their counterpart from a different universe. I can almost guarantee they've already rewritten stories down the line because they've seen how people have reacted to phase 4. Which means they'll bring back Tony Stark if RDJ is willing. This will essentially erase the main consequence of the entire infinity saga (fewer people give two fùcks about Romanov's death and absolutely no one gives a single fůck about Vision)Besides changing course due to fan feedback never goes well. See the DCEU, Prometheus saga, Star Wars sequels
Very true. And you're probably right about bringing the dead/gone back.
This was just okay, not the worst MCU, but but still lower to lower-mid tier maybe.
Relied heavy on the eye-candy and less so on plot, writing and humor. All three of which were average to mediocre at times. There were a couple cringe scenes.
Jonathan Majors is a decent actor and he did well enough with Kang, but we've seen villains and what drives them like Kang before. He might as well be another Thanos, but maybe without the skewed compassion side. At least the version we saw here, as there's many.
The MCU better step it up with the rest of Phase 5.
Originally posted by Robtard
Very true. And you're probably right about bringing the dead/gone back.This was just okay, not the worst MCU, but but still lower to lower-mid tier maybe.
Relied heavy on the eye-candy and less so on plot, writing and humor. All three of which were average to mediocre at times. There were a couple cringe scenes.
Jonathan Majors is a decent actor and he did well enough with Kang, but we've seen villains and what drives them like Kang before. He might as well be another Thanos, but maybe without the skewed compassion side. At least the version we saw here, as there's many.
The MCU better step it up with the rest of Phase 5.
Given their entire idea of bad guys this phase seems to just be lots of different Kangs it doesn't exactly bode well.
They need to stop spreading themselves so thin. Compare phase 1 to phase 4.
Iron-man
The Incredible Hulk
Iron-man 2
Thor
The First Avenger
The Avengers
Total run time...12 hours 40 minutes
V
Black Widow
Shang Chi
Eternals
No Way Home
Dr Strange MoM
Love and Thunder
Wakanda Forever
Wanda Vision
Falcon & The Winter Soldier
She Hulk
Loki
Hawkeye
Ms Marvel
What if?
Werewolf by Night
GotG Christmas special
Total run time...59 hours 10 minutes.
Wouldn't be so bad if you didn't have to know what happens in the TV shows to get certain references in the movies. But increasingly you do and I have never and will never watch any of them.
Phase 5 also looks like having a minimum of 60 episodes across 7 shows on top of 6 movies.
I am going to watch this today. I enjoyed 1, can't remember 2. Ilk be honest Marvel are picking all the wrong characters now. I am really bored with their films, at least wakanda forever had less quipping and unfunny humour. Marvel movies are no longer interesting. Kang is a shit villian it puts me off.
Can I ask something?
Spoiler:
In the climax of the movie, Kang gets overwhelmed by an army of ants to stop him from leaving the SUBATOMIC Quantum Realm. My question: Did they shrink down the ants to subatomic size, or did they get transported to a Microscopic Realm that exists above the Quantum Realm? If the answer is neither, how in the PHUCK was Hank able to summon an army of ants to help them with a conflict on the QUANTUM SCALE? At the quantum level (and this is undoubtedly a massive UNDERestimation), one single hair follicle on a single ant's leg would be the size of a quadrillion galactic superclusters. At the quantum scale, you wouldn't even be able to see the ant, you would just see electrons the size of planets and protons and neutrons the size of stars. Ants may be tiny compared to us, but compared to quantum particles they are size of centillions of galaxies. So again I ask, how the PHUCK did Hank manage to summon an army of millimeter-sized ants to the yoctometer-sized Quantum Realm without shrinking THE ENTIRE COLONY OF MILLIONS OF ANTS (which is the ONLY possible he could have brought them to the Quantum Realm, as otherwise, they would literally be too massive to perceive )?
This is just really buggin' me (no pun intended 😛 )
Originally posted by Lestov16
Can I ask something?Spoiler:
In the climax of the movie, Kang gets overwhelmed by an army of ants to stop him from leaving the SUBATOMIC Quantum Realm. My question: Did they shrink down the ants to subatomic size, or did they get transported to a Microscopic Realm that exists above the Quantum Realm? If the answer is neither, how in the PHUCK was Hank able to summon an army of ants to help them with a conflict on the QUANTUM SCALE? At the quantum level (and this is undoubtedly a massive UNDERestimation), one single hair follicle on a single ant's leg would be the size of a quadrillion galactic superclusters. At the quantum scale, you wouldn't even be able to see the ant, you would just see electrons the size of planets and protons and neutrons the size of stars. Ants may be tiny compared to us, but compared to quantum particles they are size of centillions of galaxies. So again I ask, how the PHUCK did Hank manage to summon an army of millimeter-sized ants to the yoctometer-sized Quantum Realm without shrinking THE ENTIRE COLONY OF MILLIONS OF ANTS (which is the ONLY possible he could have brought them to the Quantum Realm, as otherwise, they would literally be too massive to perceive )?This is just really buggin' me (no pun intended 😛 )
Spoiler:
the explosion that sent them there, sent the ants in hlCassie's ant farm too, but timedilated them till they built a type 2 civilisation.
Thanks infinitely man. Has anyone else noticed that
Spoiler:. Just a thought
Kang in this film is essentially CLU from Tron Legacy? A dictator is trapped in an alternate dimension, so they turn that dimension into a totalitarian state, build an army, and intend to use that army to break free of their dimensional imprisonment to conquer the real world. The only difference being Kang has conquered seemingly infinite timelines so unlike CLU he can "technically" resurrect himself
Saw it last night. I don't get the mixed reviews and the hate. I had a great time. Is it because people are finding this whole variant/multiversal origin of the Kang dynasty too complicated?
I think Eternals got too much hate too, just because it was trying to be different. There are fans who are hypocrities about this if they are complaining: "Your moves are all becoming the same, don't be anti-auteur, take the freedom to do something fresh!" "That was too different, give us what we want!" 😛