Thing with "Heart" vs Herc with "skill" stats equalised.

Started by Stoic3 pages

Powers of a Demigod
Like most Olympian gods, Hercules is immune to aging and conventional disease. He is virtually tireless, as his body produces no fatigue poisons. Hercules has superhuman strength (Class 100), greater than most other Olympian gods.

I googled that. Pretty simple right? It's also a canon fact for the character.

No no, comics, not copy/paste a bio.

I'm not doing anything for you. Accept it or don't, but your ignorance isn't my problem to deal with.

It's not me who is ignorant. 😆

😂

So, basic bios from handbooks again... same handbooks that you bring up/ignore completely at your leisure?

You didn't learn your lesson in the other thread?

Stoic, I'm perfectly fine waiting if you just can't get the scans now. But it's looking like you don't actually have anything from the comics and are complaining when you're called out to use better evidence. Is the Handbooks all you have, or do you actually have examples from the comics?

Nefaria would be destroyed in a fight with Hercules under those conditions. Hercules according to Marvel canon, and not Stiltman canon does not produce fatigue toxins. Ignoring this is up to you,but I'll believe the creators of the character over some internet troll.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Stoic, I'm perfectly fine waiting if you just can't get the scans now. But it's looking like you don't actually have anything from the comics and are complaining when you're called out to use better evidence. Is the Handbooks all you have, or do you actually have examples from the comics?

Didn't I tell you to get your hat and sit in the corner?

So prove us wrong and drop those scans from canon comics.

Originally posted by Stoic
Didn't I tell you to get your hat and sit in the corner?

So you don't have it and you're complaining it's not going your way confirmed. GG.

Originally posted by Stoic
Powers of a Demigod
Like most Olympian gods, Hercules is immune to aging and conventional disease. He is virtually tireless, as his body produces no fatigue poisons. Hercules has superhuman strength (Class 100), greater than most other Olympian gods.

Lets see what it says about Nefaria:

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Luchino_Nefaria_(Earth-616)

Superhuman Stamina: Nefaria's ionic body produces considerably less lactic acids than the bodies of ordinary humans. He can exert himself at peak capacity for several days before fatigue begins to affect him.[30]

Who'd have thunk an energy body builds up fatigue toxins, but there you go. 😂

Nef can get tired and Herc can't, game set match.

Stoic never posts scans or issue numbers. What else is new.

He even admitted he can't properly use his mobile device.

Herc's been canonically messed up by a spiked-up drink. Immortality and godhood are just words.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Stoic never posts scans or issue numbers. What else is new.

He even admitted he can't properly use his mobile device.

Herc's been canonically messed up by a spiked-up drink. Immortality and godhood are just words.

When the Masters of Evil beat the shot out of him? Well eventually.

Originally posted by Delta1938
When the Masters of Evil beat the shot out of him? Well eventually.

Yes.

It didn't knock him out on its own, no, but it was a major factor that impeded his battle performance... commented on panel by both the Avengers and the Masters of Evil.

He can be worn out. "Gods" have never been that special in Marvel, same goes for DC. They all have their limits.

Hence why we talk about their feats here to determine said limits.

Longshot wins on pure intent so I’d take Thing and heart ♥️ in this fight.

Heart force is not a means to win.

It's a means to lose and save face.

If heart is ever brought up it's because he is getting that ass beat.

Not really. It’s the same type of win as Wolverine wins on guts.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes.

It didn't knock him out on its own, no, but it was a major factor that impeded his battle performance... commented on panel by both the Avengers and the Masters of Evil.

He can be worn out. "Gods" have never been that special in Marvel, same goes for DC. They all have their limits.

Hence why we talk about their feats here to determine said limits.

One bad showing is one bad showing.

Maxima TP'd Orion unconscious, yet New Gods are immune to telepathy.

Psyloche read Juggernauts thoughts past his tp proof helmet.

Essentially, you'd need to prove Herc getting wasted by common human stuff while immortal is the norm, and not an outlier.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Heart force is not a means to win.

It's a means to lose and save face.

If heart is ever brought up it's because he is getting that ass beat.

Well, he did beat Hulk with the power of heart.

Finally. Only took longer then the Undertakers streak.