Thor-Blood Oath.
Hercules battles Thor, and wins the H2H battle. After the fight neither are winded, which shows that fatigue poisons do not accumulate within them. This is a canon fact that would like to be ignored because, well we don’t like it. The official bio which can be used to prove a characters power set states this fact. Feel free to ignore the citing, but it doesn’t mean that your opinion outweighs official evidence.
Ben Grimm tires after 30 minutes of prolonged expertise, because he is for the most part human with superhuman stats. This limitation imo will be the reason that he loses.
Asgardians also share the ability to not suffer from fatigue poisons, as Thor himself has been in a war that lasted so long that a mortal woman that he dated died of old age before the battle had concluded.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You think Ben is as skilled as someone who has been fighting for thousands of years and created his own martial art, who's strong enough to match the Odinson in battle?
Because that's the implication, that Herc doesn't just fold him in half like a deck chair and needs to outlast him.
Didn’t they face off against each other? How did that go? Regardless of stats being equal, Hercules is actually more agile, which if you had ever taken any form of combat lessons is a big plus. It isn’t the be all end all, but it makes a big difference.
I thought that we agreed that writers and artists of these comic books care more for splashy exciting stories than stats? When then do we use actual stats to reinforce a characters abilities? Feats make up a part of these characters, it it does not allow for us to simply ignore their ability, such as the fact that Olympians, Asgardians, and the denizens of all other mythological pantheons do not suffer from fatigue poisons, and can literally fight for years without stopping.
Originally posted by Stoic
Didn’t they face off against each other? How did that go? Regardless of stats being equal, Hercules is actually more agile, which if you had ever taken any form of combat lessons is a big plus. It isn’t the be all end all, but it makes a big difference.I thought that we agreed that writers and artists of these comic books care more for splashy exciting stories than stats? When then do we use actual stats to reinforce a characters abilities? Feats make up a part of these characters, it it does not allow for us to simply ignore their ability, such as the fact that Olympians, Asgardians, and the denizens of all other mythological pantheons do not suffer from fatigue poisons, and can literally fight for years without stopping.
Lol not my question.
Does the fight need to extend to years? I mean, with the skill advantage Herc has (I assume he has one?) won't the fight be over in ten minutes or so?
Originally posted by Stoic
Ben was also the Super Heavyweight wrestling Champion of the Galaxy, or some such. He has decent combat ability, and he can box as well.
That's my point.
Ben has decent combat ability and can box. Apparently, according to you, this is enough to stalemate Herc, supposedly one of the greatest warriors of all time, to the extent that Herc needs his godly stamina to win.
Can't Herc just use his godly skills to end the fight in the first minute or so?