Superman vs Gorr, Old King Thor, Young Thor

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
By that logic, Superman also directly applied force on WF and his Multiverse(albeit, a small part of it. pretty much like Superman only applied his force on a small part of the planet)
So I guess he destroyed the Multiverse WF created isn't a collateral damage, which undermining your point in your original sentence

And you don't reply other points, strange
But I like how you call others dumbassio, when your username is "OneDumbG0" 🙂

Oi, you’ve been utterly reduced to a rambling incoherent mess haven’t you? I suppose I had a hand in that. But it’s also equally your fault.

Originally posted by ODG
Yes, he did apply direct force on WF since he punched him in the face. What are you, retarded? He did not directly punch a multiverse since he directly punched World Forger, convenient plot device cosmic anvil notwithstanding.

Oi, you’ve been utterly reduced to a rambling incoherent mess haven’t you? I suppose I had a hand in that. But it’s also equally your fault.

Or let's use other posters' posts

Superman's body directly applied force to the objects he hit, but it was still called collateral damage

Originally posted by Diesldude
Collateral damage by Superman going 2000 miles per second.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah the whole thing doesn't make sense. I guess the writer tried to make it sound like Superman runs into a brick wall, but still has..... kinetic energy to create collateral damage? Yet specifically says ALL kinetic energy is stolen.

And as for your other point, I already addressed and you never gave a counter to it, just your personal views about a scene

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998

Is this tenuous? sure. Is this directly addressed in the comics? no. But just like your anvil argument, also isn't directly addressed in the comics, and the anvil also is never explicitly stated to be responsible for the Multiverse destruction

Which can be easily chalked to plot armor

Selective damage? Superman Vs Doomsday
Don't feel the scope is high enough? Superman vs Jaxon

Or Superman just that powerful, since we use our own speculations based on vague implications

It's useless to argue with dumbo. He's just a troll, ignore him.

qwerty dealing with odg the same way vegito dealing with buuhan

Originally posted by ODG
Who da phuck knows my 10+ year old former username???

Originally posted by MrMind
qwerty dealing with odg the same way vegito dealing with buuhan

Originally posted by ODG
Because they weren't striking as hard as they were in their initial clash in the Dark Dimension. This isn't difficult. They can vary the level of their punches. And not every one will result in collaterally one-shotting a planet.

😂

@Qwerty : You don't need to play his game. Just ask about WBH not destroying Earth or Hulk's pants surviving the dark dimension planet busting and dumbo will be reduced to a blubbering mess.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Mock my grasp of the English language, check?

crylaugh

Originally posted by abhilegend
@Qwerty : You don't need to play his game. Just ask about WBH not destroying Earth or Hulk's pants surviving the dark dimension planet busting and dumbo will be reduced to a blubbering mess.

Despite we have something like SBP destroyed other DK's worlds by collateral damage but the ground and the Earth beneath them don't even seem have any significant damage and the heroes fighting close to them also seem unaffected by the shockwaves
https://ibb.co/Q85L2kn
https://ibb.co/k0G78hr

Originally posted by abhilegend
LMAO, he's so butthurt someone used his own insult on him.

crylaugh

And it was because I remember when back in the days we discussing "Is important the collateral damage in the comicbook feats?"
DS said collateral is a side effect of the action and when talked one of interpretation about Cho Hulk's moon feat is the hit is the direct and the moon is collateral, which pretty similar to Superman's in terms of interpreting what collateral damage means

So I always under the impression collateral damage means something like side effect destruction and I googled its definition before I made such statement( Superman shattered the planet by jumping off is collateral damage) to ensure I didn't interpret wrong

collateral damage definition
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/collateral_damage

Unintended victims of an attack targeted at someone or something else.

collateral damage definition
https://www.yourdictionary.com/collateral-damage

The unintended detrimental consequences of any action or decision.

But somehow, he took it as an insult....

1. Superman is so much faster than these beings that they will be frozen like in metroman.

2. Superman breaking the chains gives a strength that is magnitudes beyond anything they ever experienced.

Originally posted by h1a8
1. Superman is so much faster than these beings that they will be frozen like in metroman.

2. Superman breaking the chains gives a strength that is magnitudes beyond anything they ever experienced.

ABHI, where are you?

Originally posted by carver9
ABHI, where are you?

Originally posted by Juntai
I’ve been on this forum too damn long.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
WF is in a part of his multiverse, no? And if you want to go techinically speaking, the air surrounding WF is also part of the multiverse he created

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Or let's use other posters' posts

Superman's body directly applied force to the objects he hit, but it was still called collateral damage

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
And as for your other point, I already addressed and you never gave a counter to it, just your personal views about a scene

Originally posted by ODG
Old Man Juntai. Parsing the geography of the comics isn't going to gain you purchase since the storyline's own rules weren't portrayed consistently. They were in the 6th Dimension but also that replacement multiverse manifested there. If you want to debate what KMC posters consider "collateral damage", find another dance partner. I couldn't care less hwo you stretch that term. But to be clear, I consider collateral damage to be damage that is caused indirectly. If WBH Hulk punches amped Red She-Hulk, and crap around them blows up, that's collateral damage. If Beta Ray Bill slams Stardust into a planet and blows it up, that's direct damage. Superman applying the force of his legs onto a planet and busting it, that's direct damage to me.
I actually deconstructed it. Feel free to reread my response before addressing me.

Then let's talk about Hawkgirl, who also was at the ground zero of the explosion(and as you said, it created a large crater that visible on the Earth's surface), survived

https://ibb.co/HCp0Krz
https://ibb.co/kKcyJzS

And she was knocked out by Joker with a chainsaw in the same series, written by the same writer. Gosh, it's almost like collateral damage in comics is selective sometimes

But maybe I'm wrong, maybe you can explain it to me why she survived instead of plot armor(like every other JL member) here

^ You’re reaching to a wholly separate scene with a character that wears Nth metal which was already as plot devicey as vibranium and only became moreso as Snyder elevated Nth metal to to the 9th degree of substances in DC cosmology.

Do you have any self-awareness?

I mean… we could just analyze the scene in question where the supposedly spectacular concussive force of Superman’s punch collaterally disintegrates the alternate multiversal Justice League but not the actual Justice League who are all in the same proximity. The same spectacular concussive force that only collaterally craters the planet they’re all on yet collaterally obliterates an entire multiverse…

I dunno, this assertion strikes me as absurdly stupid. Ignore your limited peanut gallery for a single moment. Is engaging in pages of farcical semantics supposed to convince those select few KMC-neutral-on-the-fencethat your interpretation is more logical or faithful to the plain presentation of the comics?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
But maybe I'm wrong, maybe you can explain it to me why she survived instead of plot armor(like every other JL member) here

Who exactly are you convincing?

Originally posted by ODG
^ You’re reaching to a wholly separate scene with a character that wears Nth metal which was already as plot devicey as vibranium and only became moreso as Snyder elevated Nth metal to to the 9th degree of substances in DC cosmology.

Do you have any self-awareness?

I mean… we could just analyze the scene in question where the supposedly spectacular concussive force of Superman’s punch collaterally disintegrates the alternate multiversal Justice League but not the actual Justice League who are all in the same proximity. The same spectacular concussive force that only collaterally craters the planet they’re all on yet collaterally obliterates an entire multiverse…

I dunno, this assertion strikes me as absurdly stupid. Ignore your limited peanut gallery for a single moment. Is engaging in pages of farcical semantics supposed to convince those select few KMC-neutral-on-the-fencethat your interpretation is more logical or faithful to the plain presentation of the comics? Yes, maybe you are wrong. Well put. And maybe I already explained it and continue to dumb it down to levels a retarded malformed fetus should comprehend. But I’m not going to overcome irrational bias with logic. You want to exponentially inflate a Superman feat out of all proportions, after all.

Who exactly are you convincing?

Oh you actually just explained how baseless you whole argument is

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So you essentially saying Hawkgirl survived because maybe some plot device, although I have no way to prove it, ok.

Much precise. Very targeted. Wow.

Just ignore the presence of the crisis anvil. Whose shards were prominently floating in the aftermath.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Oh you actually just explained how baseless you whole argument is

I hadn’t planned on making you argue against yourself but well… let the irony slap you across the cheeks like a two dollar whore.

Originally posted by ODG
Putting words into my mouth isn’t going to substantiate Superman collaterally busting a multiverse w/ pure concussive force from a single punch. I mean, forget about the scope, Superman has such precision he avoided obliterating the Justice League or creating more than a crater on the planet they were on whilst collaterally vaporizing the alternate Justice League and obliterating an entire multiverse!

Much precise. Very targeted. Wow.

Just ignore the presence of the crisis anvil. Whose shards were prominently floating in the aftermath. Is this supposed to be unforced criticism of your own inane reliance on plot armor without which your myth cannot stand?

I hadn’t planned on making you argue against yourself but well… let the irony slap you across the cheeks like a two dollar whore.

And speaking of irony

Me: "hey there are possibilities such as the final suit Batman built protects the league, after all, element X is a plot device and Batman's final suit build around it: https://ibb.co/Sr98FvT"

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998

Edit for your edit:

Lol, what you said didn't address anything in my points, just keep throwing your own views without any definite evidence.
Like I said before, I also can argue the prime Superman is the most powerful Superman across all iterations
Batman's suit protects the rest league etcetc
If we go by vague implications of course

Me:"by your logic, Hawkgirl should also die based on her durability showings, but she didn't"
You:" Do you know how awesome Nth metal is? it must play a plot device so Hawkgirl survived!!!!"