Originally posted by h1a8What are the arguments for Voidtry?
Stalemating World War Hulk despite being in an extremely weakened state?
Already outperforming World Breaker Hulks feats in his fight against Photon?
Beating Molecule Man, who affected far more than just a planet and a couple of high herald-level beings in his fights?
Killing Loki despite being attacked by a legion of massively amped good guys?
Regenerating from a single atom?
Originally posted by Enzeru1. Stalemating World War Hulk despite being in an extremely weakened state?
2. Already outperforming World Breaker Hulks feats in his fight against Photon?
3. Beating Molecule Man, who affected far more than just a planet and a couple of high herald-level beings in his fights?
4. Killing Loki despite being attacked by a legion of massively amped good guys?
5. Regenerating from a single atom?
1. Stalemating WWH as evidence he beats WBH is faulty logic, Especially when you can't quantify how much he was weakened, if at all (careful about going against writer's intent). WBH was operating MORE than millions of times greater than WWH (in durability as well).
2. His fight against photon was at least 6 orders of magnitudes below WBH feat. Just to be clear, what are you claiming he did in the photon fight? So that we can quantify and compare.
3. WBH is not MM, so that fight is irrelevant. Sentry can still be koed with a blow. Voidtry doesn't have the propensity to even attempt to atomize WBH from the get go, or even at all.
4. Killing Loki is again magnitudes below WBH feat. You are not understanding the magnitude of the feat.
5. Regeneration has nothing to do with being koed.
Many characters can regenerate and also be koed.
Here's my argument :
Simply put, Sentry doesn't have the power output to even effect WBH in the slightest.
Want proof? Here you go:
WBH tanked a force capable of shattering more than a thousand planets (possibly millions).
How?
Well he collided with his equal with that much force and wasn't visibly damaged.
Prove it was that much force? Ok
Well it takes at least thousands of times (more realistically beyond a million) more force to destroy something from a distance without touching it than to directly touch it. You can shatter a vase easily with a sledgehammer. But how much force would the vase feel if you strike another sledgehammer 100s of meters away with the same force yo8 hit the vase with? Less than a million times the original force.
Originally posted by h1a8
1. Stalemating WWH as evidence he beats WBH is faulty logic, Especially when you can't quantify how much he was weakened, if at all (careful about going against writer's intent). WBH was operating MORE than millions of times greater than WWH (in durability as well).2. His fight against photon was at least 6 orders of magnitudes below WBH feat. Just to be clear, what are you claiming he did in the photon fight? So that we can quantify and compare.
3. WBH is not MM, so that fight is irrelevant. Sentry can still be koed with a blow. Voidtry doesn't have the propensity to even attempt to atomize WBH from the get go, or even at all.
4. Killing Loki is again magnitudes below WBH feat. You are not understanding the magnitude of the feat.
5. Regeneration has nothing to do with being koed.
Many characters can regenerate and also be koed.Here's my argument :
Simply put, Sentry doesn't have the power output to even effect WBH in the slightest.
Want proof? Here you go:WBH tanked a force capable of shattering more than a thousand planets (possibly millions).
How?
Well he collided with his equal with that much force and wasn't visibly damaged.
Prove it was that much force? Ok
Well it takes at least thousands of times (more realistically beyond a million) more force to destroy something from a distance without touching it than to directly touch it. You can shatter a vase easily with a sledgehammer. But how much force would the vase feel if you strike another sledgehammer 100s of meters away with the same force yo8 hit the vase with? Less than a million times the original force.
But this ignores that A: Dark Dimension matter is more fragile, and B: there were potential other factors in play that contributed to the WBH feat.
Also, Voidtry wasn't KOd to my knowledge. Probably wrong though.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But this ignores that A: Dark Dimension matter is more fragile, and B: there were potential other factors in play that contributed to the WBH feat.Also, Voidtry wasn't KOd to my knowledge. Probably wrong though.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So it's been mentioned more times than Surfer has created black holes. Nice.
Dr Strange Sorcerer Supreme 50
Dr Strange sorcerer supreme 21
And in the handbook.
TBH, I might find even more if I tried.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yup. In comic.Dr Strange Sorcerer Supreme 50
Dr Strange sorcerer supreme 21
And in the handbook.
TBH, I might find even more if I tried.
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To the first scan
The 2nd scan and handbook entry doesn't mention matter is more fragile though.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But this ignores that A: Dark Dimension matter is more fragile, and B: there were potential other factors in play that contributed to the WBH feat.Also, Voidtry wasn't KOd to my knowledge. Probably wrong though.
If A is true then you are right.
I accounted for all other factors at play in B
The Dark scan mention Dormammu changing the Dark Dimension to his liking, so posting those old a** scan is overdone by Dorm restructuring the Dark Dimension per his liking.
Also, Doctor Strange has went all out again Dorm in this realm and the planet didn't suffer a scratch.
Dorm powering up in anger to levels that had never been seen in the Dark Dimension and the Dimension was still in tact...
Shuma and the Avengers fought in this Dimension and Dorm took him out. All happened in the Dark Dimension. No exploding planets, shit...
https://ibb.co/jfKrKXC
https://ibb.co/9Y256TS
Let's also not forget Dormammu fighting eternity there as well.
Originally posted by carver9
Dorm powering up in anger to levels that had never been seen in the Dark Dimension and the Dimension was still in tact...Shuma and the Avengers fought in this Dimension and Dorm took him out. All happened in the Dark Dimension. No exploding planets, shit...
https://ibb.co/jfKrKXC
https://ibb.co/9Y256TSLet's also not forget Dormammu fighting eternity there as well.
Very good scans.
What happened when WBH came to 616 Earth, was massively amped and was fighting multiple Hulks? Asking for a friend.