Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And now that I have access to my PC, I will lay my argument out.From the very start, we already knew Betty - in her unamped, normal state, was a match for Hulk durability-wise:
Bear this in mind as we read on.
It was established that the Wishing Well would take a circuitous route to give you [b]exactly
what you actually want, but there would be consequences:Now, Hulk wanted there to be no innocents around - the Well could have given him a barren world, but instead, it gave him a world full of guilty criminals to fight:
No matter. The Hulk loved it either way. As he himself says:
Look at that smile. He is loving it.
Confirmed by the Hulk himself, that it was time to fight and die (still with that shit-eating grin on his face):
And confirmed again by Strange. No one was going to survive - and that was the end that the Hulk wanted:
As he was surrounded by guilty criminals, he wanted them all to die, be resurrected, and die again. Over and over and over again. As a side-effect, Hulk too would die and be resurrected - because ArmCheddon wished that the Hulk would also suffer the same fate:
In short, the World breaking feat wasn't due to pure strength, but was due to Hulk wishing that everyone with him would die as he fought them, because they were all monsters, trapped together. The Wishing Well granted this wish, by having the entire realm be destroyed every time he fought.
Sure, there is *some* strength involved. Hulk still cut loose. My argument is that it could have been Alfred, completely cutting loose with his old-man strength, fighting a planet full of Martha Wayne corpses, and the end result would have been the same - planetary destruction.
Now, what happens when they get to Earth? Safe old Earth, filled with kittens and women and children and that sort of thing?
Remember, that Betty, without the Wishing Well amp, was already on the level of Hulk. Now she got amped by the Wishing Well. THEN she got hit by FFF's missiles (note her and WBH's size):
https://i.postimg.cc/HLsc6J1R/RCO017-1469401173.jpg
She grows to massive proportions, and casually stomps FFF (along with WBH):
https://i.postimg.cc/vZGcm1TT/RCO018-1469401173.jpg
A-bomb and She-Hulk were also amped - remember, they augmented the energy:
https://i.postimg.cc/W4WDC223/RCO015-1469401173.jpg
So we now have four gigantic Hulk beings duking it out on Earth, not holding back, completely insane with power:
https://i.postimg.cc/vZy66qqQ/RCO020-1469401173.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/1tVzdwCC/RCO019-1469401173.jpg
Yet, not even a pickup truck nearby was harmed (I've circled how close Strange was to the fight, and the truck itself):
Of course, this could well just be the suspension of belief that EndlessMike was talking about. But the comic was clear in that one didn't need to articulate the wish out loud, verbally, for it to happen - Wendigo and Cho made wishes without saying them, for example. In other words, we don't need Hulk actually saying the words for it to have been a wish.
In short, the Hulk only had the power to destroy a world in the Dark Dimension, because the Well granted him the power to do so when there were no innocents around. Once he (and 3 others!) were on Earth, a planet filled with innocents, he (and the other 3) didn't destroy Earth.
All this ignores the whole 'gravity is wonky in the DD' argument. [/B]
'Ah, DS, you're using collateral damage, you phuck!!!!' I hear people cry.
Collateral damage is ALL WBH has. This is why I kept getting Carver to harp on about Dormammu and collateral damage. Either it counts, and he fails to do on Earth with a lot of help what he did in the DD, or it doesn't count and his DD feat is useless.