Originally posted by Jaden_3.0
I'll be sure to tell the Ukrainian woman from Mariupol that i just hired that her home has been "preserved" and she can move back home any time now.
Did you really hire a Ukrainian woman and is that really her home?
Not trying to insult you by calling you a liar, I'm just bad with reading sarcasm.
Originally posted by cdtm
Did you really hire a Ukrainian woman and is that really her home?Not trying to insult you by calling you a liar, I'm just bad with reading sarcasm.
I hired 3 Ukrainians in the last month. She's the only one from Mariupol. That's Mariupol. Her husband and parents were all killed.
I'll leave this without comment as it speaks for itself;
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/28/ukraine-kyiv-russia-civilians/
Russia has killed civilians in Ukraine. Kyiv’s defense tactics add to the danger.
By Sudarsan Raghavan
March 28, 2022 at 11:00 p.m. EDT
A woman walks by a destroyed Russian military vehicle on the outskirts of Brovary, Ukraine, on March 28. (Heidi Levine)
KYIV, Ukraine — The suspected Russian missile hit the tall apartment building, engulfing it in flames and smoke. It killed at least four people, including elderly residents, and shattered the lives of a close-knit community. For lawmaker Oleksi
“They are just hitting residential buildings in these areas,” said the Ukrainian parliament member, who arrived at the scene shortly after the explosion two weeks ago. “You can walk around, you will not find any military targets, or any military people. This is just terror.”Yet a few minutes later, the whooshing sound of Ukrainian rockets fired from a multiple rocket launcher startled residents staring blankly at their destroyed homes. Then, another outgoing barrage. The weapons seemed to be nearby, perhaps a few streets away, certainly well inside the capital.
Originally posted by Jaden_3.0
It's almost like missile defence systems have to be around where the missiles are being fired at. Shocking, frankly.
It said rocket, not missile. Nor missile defense.
The reporter's implication is clearly that there is an offensive push from the Ukraine side done too closely to civilian homes, if not right within residential areas.
Originally posted by Robtard
Maybe if the Ukrainians asked nicely, the invading Russians would stop occupying civilian areas and the battles wouldn't have to be fought there. Maybe.
Again nothing from the article I posted claims this was the case there.
But a better strawman then claiming a multiple rocket launcher can take down missiles, never pegged Jadan as a gaslighter. 😅
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There’s no doubt that Russian forces are behind the most horrific acts of the war as it continues into a second month. They have struck schools, clinics, ambulances, shopping centers, electric and water facilities, and passenger cars, among numerous indiscriminate attacks on civilians, according to human rights activists. In the southern city of Mariupol, a suspected Russian airstrike killed many people taking refuge inside a theater. It was clearly marked, with the Russian word for “children” in huge letters visible from the sky. Days earlier, a maternity hospital was hit.But Ukraine’s strategy of placing heavy military equipment and other fortifications in civilian zones could weaken Western and Ukrainian efforts to hold Russia legally culpable for possible war crimes, said human rights activists and international humanitarian law experts. Last week, the Biden administration formally declared that Moscow has committed crimes against humanity.
“If there is military equipment there and [the Russians] are saying we are launching at this military equipment, it undermines an assertion that they are attacking intentionally civilian objects and civilians,” said Richard Weir, a researcher in Human Rights Watch’s crisis and conflict division, who is working in Ukraine.
Rob and company reply "But Putin was the aggressor". Completely ignoring the fact America started a war and sanctions against Cuba for doing exactly what NATO wanted to do with Ukraine.
But only the Western security concerns matter I guess.
Originally posted by Robtard
IOW: It's really the Ukrainian's fault they're being attacked.You've been playing that Rightist deplorable shit-game for a long time now.
It's America's fault actually. We started the revolution in Ukraine and Taiwan. Our concerns are money.
Well guess what, China and Russia doesn't need us any more! The Saudi's are circumventing the US dollar as we speak.
Dollar supremacy is OVER.
Originally posted by cdtm
It said rocket, not missile. Nor missile defense.The reporter's implication is clearly that there is an offensive push from the Ukraine side done too closely to civilian homes, if not right within residential areas.
Except for the part where it literally says "air defence systems"
https://ctmirror.org/2023/03/08/us-dangerously-disingenuous-on-ukrainian-conflict/
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U.S. dangerously disingenuous on Ukrainian conflict
by James Root
March 8, 2023 @ 12:01 am
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MINISTRY OF DEFENSE OF UKRAINE, CC BY-SA 2.0 , VIA WIKIMEDIA COMMONS
As a Connecticut resident, a Fifth Congressional District constituent, and a registered Democratic, I must call for a more earnest discussion concerning the rapidly growing American involvement in the year old Ukraine war.My own inquiries to my U.S. representative and senators on the matter, so far, have been met by polite indifference and/or irrelevant talking points. Considering the magnitude and inherent stakes in our involvement in this distant European conflict, there has been shockingly little forthright discourse on policy, so far, either among politicians or between politicians and their constituents.
From the get go, the all-important framing of this conflict, now a year old, has been disingenuous at best. While Russia’s invasion has been undeniably aggressive and illegal, it did not occur in a vacuum, but sprang out of the 2014 civil war in Ukraine-where the U.S. is , and has been, deeply involved politically and economically, publicly and on the down low, since WW2. Indeed, the opposition groups that prevailed in 2014 were partially funded by U.S. funded non-profits –an often insidious but highly effective M.O. which our nation, justified or not, promulgates ruthlessly around the world when it is not comfortable with the local states of affairs.
Vladimir Putin is certainly not a nice guy, but Russia is more than Putin, and there are certain geopolitical realities, well known to our erudite senators, that can necessitate great powers, like the U.S. and Russia to preemptively posture aggressively and/or attack militarily if the need is felt.
The U.S has not hesitated to do so many times in the past: the Philippines, Central America, Vietnam, Cuba, Iraq, to name some big ones. Right up to the very start of the current Ukraine war, Russia was seeking dialogue, through third party European organizations, on the military security on its borders-which have been subject to pretty serious invasions in the recent past.
There has been, in recent years, relentless encroachment by the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), a proven aggressive military alliance that has operated, under questionable pretexts far outside the “North Atlantic.” The NATO expansion abrogates explicit promises to Russia, not to do so, made in the early 90s, by the U.S. and its allies, when the Soviet Union was breaking up. New NATO member Lithuania is for Russia, geographically, like us having massive, secretive Russian military base in New Brunswick.
Against this complex background, the U.S., in regard to the Ukraine, has incongruently almost taken on the obtuse persona of the professional gunfighter/bully character, portrayed by Jack Palance, in the movie “Shane”, who famously goads his victim to “Pick up the gun!” laying at the latter’s feet, effectively giving the guy a choice between public humiliation or certain death (credit to the late comedian Bill Hicks.)
The difference is that, for us, unlike Palance’s character, this proxy war is unwinnable and possibly lethal to us too, if it escalates to a nuclear exchange. This very real threat, inexplicably labeled “unrealistic” by Sen. Richard Blumenthal, and the staggering amounts (around $60 billion so far) of taxpayer money being funneled to U.S. arms manufacturers (many Connecticut-based admittedly) making weapons for the Kiev government, is not warranted by the foggy origins and tenuous relevance, to most Americans, of the war.
I ask our federal senators and reps (and our state pols, also, to the extent they are able) to, at least, in parallel with this massive wartime level of resource mobilization, to be also seeking, through third parties if necessary (European Organization for Cooperation and Security?), a framework for a ceasefire in the Ukraine War.
The current American policy is dangerously, and unaccountably, open ended and someone needs to step outside of the group think, up top, long enough to turn this dangerous conflict into a more manageable situation for the American people. I love my country and know being a superpower has its moral hazards, but can’t we be a little smarter here?
Let me end on another pop culture note with a quote from Generation X, Georgia-based rock group Drivin’ and Cryin’’s Gulf War era song “Fly Me Courageous:” Mother America is brandishing her weapons/She keeps me safe and warm with threats and misconceptions/….Take it easy lady!” [Italics added.]
Originally posted by cdtm
Which isn't the part I quoted. Nor does it dismiss all the offensive equipment they parked near apartment buildings.
It's almost like cherry picking tiny bits of information and then forming opinions on it isn't sensible.
Tell me again how not having military equipment in Mariupol and Bakhmut prevented Russia from laying waste to them.