IM and Pepper against Thanos.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because of everything else Thanos has taken without physical injury or serious physical injury. eg If it takes Carol D's powerlevel to give Thanos a bruise and Thor with Stormbringer to seriosuly harm/kill Thanos, then Tony's going to have trouble matching that, let alone surpassing. Because Carol D and Thor >>>>>> Ironman

I also don't think Tony's upgrades would make his armor go from causing paper-cut to killing Thanos in one or two generations. His upgrades would just delay the inevitable, Thanos landing a solid hit or grabbing them.

Its only an outlier if Tony really isn't that powerful.

Also
The fact that Thanos HAD TO BLOCK Tony's beam is saying something. He's not withstanding a prolonged beam attack by both.

Assuming they b3come stupid and go fist cuffs then

Thanos landed plenty of hits on Tony. Tony was able to still hang on and heal up. Grabbing Tony will do nothing. He can't rip Tony apart. Grabbing one of them will open him up for attack by the other (a stab to the neck or a uni beam attack).

Originally posted by h1a8
Lol you didnt answer the question. Why can't Tony be actually that powerful? As powerful as every blunt type of attack that Thanos took without damage? You are faultily equating past suits with that one. What evidence do you have that Tony's big foot kick powered by rockets shouldn't be able to bruise Thanos?

Its only an outlier if Tony really isn't that powerful.

Also
The fact that Thanos HAD TO BLOCK Tony's beam is saying something. He's not withstanding a prolonged beam attack by both.

Assuming they b3come stupid and go fist cuffs then

Thanos landed plenty of hits on Tony. Tony was able to still hang on and heal up. Grabbing Tony will do nothing. He can't rip Tony apart. Grabbing one of them will open him up for attack by the other (a stab to the neck or a uni beam attack).

Why do you keep saying Thanos had to block those beams? Just because he did? This is where your arguments crumble. You are unable to see past the black and white of anything. In your world, if a person runs from a bee, that must mean the bee would win when in truth, the bee is nothing more than an annoyance.

Originally posted by tkitna
Why do you keep saying Thanos had to block those beams? Just because he did? This is where your arguments crumble. You are unable to see past the black and white of anything. In your world, if a person runs from a bee, that must mean the bee would win when in truth, the bee is nothing more than an annoyance.

Writer's intent. If writer believed Thanos can tank the beam with no problems then he would have had him tank the blasts.

Originally posted by h1a8
A single bee hurts but will not win. Multiple bees will win.

Writer's intent. If writer believed Thanos can tank the beam with no problems then he would have had him tank the blasts.

Not two of them.

Wonder Woman blocks bullets. Does that mean she has too? Its not writers intent. Its theatrics.

Originally posted by tkitna
Not two of them.

Wonder Woman blocks bullets. Does that mean she has too? Its not writers intent. Its theatrics.

Originally posted by h1a8
Yes she has to block them.

Really?

Originally posted by tkitna
Really?

Showings that bullets bypass her durability >>>>>> that one instance.

What issue is that from anyway?

Originally posted by h1a8
I can show you more scans of her being penetrated by bullets.

Showings that bullets bypass her durability >>>>>> that one instance.

What issue is that from anyway?

Not sure the exact issue. Its in Injustice somewhere. There are other instances too, but i'm aware of the instances she has been shot also. In those times, she basically heals instantly. The point is, bullets are nothing more than an annoyance to her. Just like IM and Pepper would be to Thanos.

Originally posted by tkitna
Not sure the exact issue. Its in Injustice somewhere. There are other instances too, but i'm aware of the instances she has been shot also. In those times, she basically heals instantly. The point is, bullets are nothing more than an annoyance to her. Just like IM and Pepper would be to Thanos.

So you are basically saying that

1. two prolong blasts that lasts for a long time will do nothing to Thanos.
2. Thanos being stabbed in a vital area (like the neck) will not work.
3. beams that are multiple times more powerful than standard blasts, like the unibeam and laser, would do nothing to Thanos.

Are these 3 things correct?

Originally posted by tkitna
Not sure the exact issue. Its in Injustice somewhere. There are other instances too, but i'm aware of the instances she has been shot also. In those times, she basically heals instantly. The point is, bullets are nothing more than an annoyance to her. Just like IM and Pepper would be to Thanos.

Originally posted by h1a8
Lol you didnt answer the question. Why can't Tony be actually that powerful? As powerful as every blunt type of attack that Thanos took without damage? You are faultily equating past suits with that one. What evidence do you have that Tony's big foot kick powered by rockets shouldn't be able to bruise Thanos?

Its only an outlier if Tony really isn't that powerful.

Also
The fact that Thanos HAD TO BLOCK Tony's beam is saying something. He's not withstanding a prolonged beam attack by both.

Assuming they b3come stupid and go fist cuffs then

Thanos landed plenty of hits on Tony. Tony was able to still hang on and heal up. Grabbing Tony will do nothing. He can't rip Tony apart. Grabbing one of them will open him up for attack by the other (a stab to the neck or a uni beam attack).

I need to disprove that Tony isn't on either Carol's or Thor's level, or he just is, despite what we've seen from all three? 😂

Tony is very powerful, he's just not Carol or Thor.

What are you going on about? Thanos is absolutely strong enough to tear the IM armor apart, he's stronger than the Hulk. He literally tore Tony's armor to pieces with his bare hand in Infinity War 😂

Originally posted by tkitna
Really?

Bro, that's Injustice. A video game tie-in.

In the mainstream books, Diana has always been super-vulnerable to bullets:

Originally posted by Robtard
I need to disprove that Tony isn't on either Carol's or Thor's level, or he just is, despite what we've seen from all three? 😂

Tony is very powerful, he's just not Carol or Thor.

What are you going on about? Thanos is absolutely strong enough to tear the IM armor apart, he's stronger than the Hulk. He literally tore Tony's armor to pieces with his bare hand in Infinity War 😂

I don't see why Carol's punches should be more powerful than anyone else's (Hulk's, Thor's, etc). What are her punching feats (besides flying through spaceships)? You are assuming punching power without proof.

That was Tony's facearmor. I already addressed that. You didn't read that part huh? Thanos was not able to do much to Tony's forearm armor or body armor. The facearmor is the weakest part of his armor. Tony can just guard his face with his arms or create a shield.

😂 You should watch the movies and pay attention as to why Carol and Thor are more powerful than Tony.

"Face armor!" The nano tech builds whatever Tony needs, it doesn't just become weaker because its his head. If anything, his head would be one of the most protected parts. 😂

Originally posted by Robtard
😂 You should watch the movies and pay attention as to why Carol and Thor are more powerful than Tony.

"Face armor!" The nano tech builds whatever Tony needs, it doesn't just become weaker because its his head. If anything, his head would be one of the most protected parts. 😂

Also we go by feats, not tiers. Unless you can show that Carol's punching power is significantly more than that Tony's amplified kick (large foot power by extra rockets) then it isn't an outlier.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Bro, that's Injustice. A video game tie-in.

In the mainstream books, Diana has always been super-vulnerable to bullets:

Yeah, I know she has gotten shot before, but it usually doesnt do much.

Here she gets shot and basically recovers in seconds.

That divine blood and all.

Here she gets shot in the hand and it does nothing.

Point taken though. I suppose it depends on the caliber and where she gets shot. She was shot in the ear by Mayfly and while it didnt kill her, it messed her up pretty bad.

Here's another example of being shot and it not doing anything, but she had armor on so its probably a no deal.

Originally posted by h1a8
A single bee hurts but will not win. Multiple bees will win.

Writer's intent. If writer believed Thanos can tank the beam with no problems then he would have had him tank the blasts.

Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't move the goalposts. My argument is about cutting and energy blasts, not concussive force.

Also Thor's lightning varied in power tremendously from scene to scene and movie to movie. You can't equate them all. I would say Tony's beam is stronger than Thor's weaker lightning (lightning that comes out of the hammer) but weaker than his best lightning (from the sky as a huge ass bolt lasting several seconds).

Originally posted by 9jaboy
No it could have been to show he was faster, prolly other factors too.
Ronan could tank Drax punches but he defended against some of them.
Steppenwolf defended against Amazonian's arrows, but he could have taken them with no damage. want more examples?
What are the best feats of this blasts? what has it damaged that makes you assume it can damage Thanos?

But he wasn't faster. Tony hit him a billion times.
There is no other reason shown.

If Ronan defended against some of Drax attacks then those attacks could damage Ronan. I recall Drax attacking him with knives. Do you have scenes where said knives failed to cut Ronan's face or flesh?

same for Steppenwolf, etc. Facts.

In many movies, villains often start off tanking blows as if it's not affecting them. But as more hits pour on the villain starts to be visibly affected.

I can give many examples.
Here's a few.
Rocky vs Drago (both were tanking each other's initial blows)
Jet Li vs big dude scenes

So the fact that the writer has a character block just means that the attack will do some damage or actually hurt. Warriors usually don't show pain if they can help it.