X-24 vs Hela

Originally posted by h1a8
This is barren Earth. There is nothing to I pale him to. Also he can easily pull himself out of it.
Or just pull it out.

That's if it manages to tag his belly (under the rib cage).

Barren earth is meaningless in this debate as Hela can form objects from the ground. There will be plenty of things to impale him with.

They start 30ft away. She's going to start of throwing one at a time. She will manage to get 1 or 2 off before he's on her ass. Then she has to use her fighting skills to survive.

Why would she just throw one at a time? Even if she has to rely on her fighting skills, she would win. She is physically stronger than Thor and faster and a better fighter than X-24. Please try to remember that.

She can rend Asgardian armor with her bare hands and throw her blades with enough strength to destroy Asgardian warships. She would drive her fist through his torso. She also tanked being stabbed by Asgardian weapons there’s no way he can even hurt her

Originally posted by tkitna
Barren earth is meaningless in this debate as Hela can form objects from the ground. There will be plenty of things to impale him with.

Why would she just throw one at a time? Even if she has to rely on her fighting skills, she would win. She is physically stronger than Thor and faster and a better fighter than X-24. Please try to remember that.

1. In character she doesn't form objects from the ground to impale humans. She throws blades at them to impale them.

2. Her generating blades from the water in Asgard doesn't prove he can do the same on barren Earth.

3. She would start throwing one at a time. She could get 1 of 2 off before he's on her.

4. He can one shot her by decapitation or severing a limb. Stabbing her will do nothing. I agree about that.

5. His skeleton can block blades. If one manages to get through his belly then he would either pull it out of it goes straight through.

Originally posted by carthage
She can rend Asgardian armor with her bare hands and throw her blades with enough strength to destroy Asgardian warships. She would drive her fist through his torso. She also tanked being stabbed by Asgardian weapons there’s no way he can even hurt her

I cant QUOTE you. You are using the ios apostrophe.
Please refrain from fantasy strategies. How would she fight?
Throwing blades, punching, and kicking.

He can slice her head off or an arm or leg.

Originally posted by h1a8
1. In character she doesn't form objects from the ground to impale humans. She throws blades at them to impale them.

2. Her generating blades from the water in Asgard doesn't prove he can do the same on barren Earth.

3. She would start throwing one at a time. She could get 1 of 2 off before he's on her.

4. He can one shot her by decapitation or severing a limb. Stabbing her will do nothing. I agree about that.

5. His skeleton can block blades. If one manages to get through his belly then he would either pull it out of it goes straight through.

1. Its a legit threat. She did so against Surtur.

2. She didnt generate blades from the water. They were generated from the ground. This idea that she needs water to do that is preposterous.

3. Lol. How do you know how many she would throw? Also, you have it backwards. She would advance and be on him and he would get pummeled.

4. Highly unlikely he would be able to do that with her speed, strength, and fighting skills advantage.

5. 😂 Just like that huh? No issues at all in your world. He just casually pulls them out like they were nothing. Wow do you reach.

Lets look at this in another way. Do you think X-24 can beat the Hulk?

H1 is trolling and smiling behind his laptop because we are feeding into it. His arguments are ludicrous

Originally posted by tkitna
1. Its a legit threat. She did so against Surtur.

2. She didnt generate blades from the water. They were generated from the ground. This idea that she needs water to do that is preposterous.

3. Lol. How do you know how many she would throw? Also, you have it backwards. She would advance and be on him and he would get pummeled.

4. Highly unlikely he would be able to do that with her speed, strength, and fighting skills advantage.

5. 😂 Just like that huh? No issues at all in your world. He just casually pulls them out like they were nothing. Wow do you reach.

1. Surtur was huge and does it fit the situation.
She formed them blades in Agard from the water.

2. She generated giant blades from the water while in Asgard. She generated a blade from the ground in Asgard. But this is irrelevant since she's not going to even attempt this in the fight.

3. Because she did that EVERYTIME she was faced with a humanoid threat.

4. She's not that fast. Thor was able to tag her with a bid ass spear. X24 is significantly faster.

5. He will still fight if one enters his torso. Or it will pass straight through him. But don't forget he can block them as well.

In summary, x-24 best chance is up close where he can try to decapitate her or severe a limb
They start pretty close. So she might get off 2 blades in the beginning (or 1). If she can avoid being severed then she can ko him with a good blow to the head.
Blades will do little as he will block them, they will hit his skeleton, or go through his torso (under the rib).

X-24 can definitely beat a Hulk with no HF. Easy fight.

This fight though can go either way

Originally posted by h1a8
1. Surtur was huge and does it fit the situation.
She formed them blades in Agard from the water.

2. She generated giant blades from the water while in Asgard. She generated a blade from the ground in Asgard. But this is irrelevant since she's not going to even attempt this in the fight.

3. Because she did that EVERYTIME she was faced with a humanoid threat.

4. She's not that fast. Thor was able to tag her with a bid ass spear. X24 is significantly faster.

5. He will still fight if one enters his torso. Or it will pass straight through him. But don't forget he can block them as well.

In summary, x-24 best chance is up close where he can try to decapitate her or severe a limb
They start pretty close. So she might get off 2 blades in the beginning (or 1). If she can avoid being severed then she can ko him with a good blow to the head.
Blades will do little as he will block them, they will hit his skeleton, or go through his torso (under the rib).

X-24 can definitely beat a Hulk with no HF. Easy fight.

This fight though can go either way

The blades and objects she created were made from the ground not the water. How hard is that for you to grasp? The objects were not made from water. They were created from the ground that she raised that just happened to be under water because of chance of where they were at.

Stop with this water bit. You look dumber everytime you bring it up.

Lol. She's much faster than X-24. She also threw multiple swords at one time against the Valkyries so why would she not do so again if one or two were not getting the job done. Hela isnt as dumb as you. She would do what it took to win the fight.

But Hulk has a healing factor and Helas seems even better than his. Answer the question without including variables.

This fight can only go one way and thats with X-24 getting pummeled.

Originally posted by h1a8

In summary, x-24 best chance is up close where he can try to decapitate her or severe a limb
They start pretty close. So she might get off 2 blades in the beginning (or 1). If she can avoid being severed then she can ko him with a good blow to the head.
Blades will do little as he will block them, they will hit his skeleton, or go through his torso (under the rib).

Originally posted by h1a8

Please refrain from fantasy strategies.

Originally posted by tkitna
The blades and objects she created were made from the ground not the water. How hard is that for you to grasp? The objects were not made from water. They were created from the ground that she raised that just happened to be under water because of chance of where they were at.

Stop with this water bit. You look dumber everytime you bring it up.

Lol. She's much faster than X-24. She also threw multiple swords at one time against the Valkyries so why would she not do so again if one or two were not getting the job done. Hela isnt as dumb as you. She would do what it took to win the fight.

But Hulk has a healing factor and Helas seems even better than his. Answer the question without including variables.

This fight can only go one way and thats with X-24 getting pummeled.

The fight with the Valkyries wasnt onscreen. Also she could have been at a different level when she fought them. Plus there were MANY OF THEM. Let's go by all her fights against individuals in the actual movie to determine how she fights. She will most likely throw a blade at a time (definitely in the beginning) at x24 just like she did every single opponent she fought (including Thor). X24 will block the first two and start attacking.

Plenty of beings blocked those blades. They were not moving that fast (slower than arrows). Her movements wasnt that fast either. X24 has a chance. He just needs to try to decap her (like he did another in the movie) or slice a limb off.

Originally posted by h1a8
Blade from the ground?
Did you read the part about why I said that argument was irrelevant? Why argue when the argument doesn't count anyway? You are wasting time.

It is relevant because its an actual choice she can make.

The fight with the Valkyries wasnt onscreen.

You truly dont watch the movies do you?

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Also she could have been at a different level when she fought them. Plus there were MANY OF THEM. Let's go by all her fights against individuals in the actual movie to determine how she fights. She will most likely throw a blade at a time (definitely in the beginning) at x24 just like she did every single opponent she fought (including Thor). X24 will block the first two and start attacking.

Many or few, she was shown to be capable of doing so and its an option. Yeah, she mostly throws one or a couple at a time at opponents that she knows arent real threats to her. If she feels X-24 is a threat (he's not) she would up the ante some.

Plenty of beings blocked those blades. They were not moving that fast (slower than arrows). Her movements wasnt that fast either. X24 has a chance. He just needs to try to decap her (like he did another in the movie) or slice a limb off.

Slower than arrows? Lol. Prove it.

She took out an entire Asgardian army (each one more enhanced than X-24) with very few strokes being landed against her. Easily mind you. An army that X-24 has no chance in hell of beating.

You need to take the blinders off and reevaluate the scope of Helas superiority here. Your looking even more foolish than usual.

Originally posted by tkitna
It is relevant because its an actual choice she can make.

You truly dont watch the movies do you?

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Many or few, she was shown to be capable of doing so and its an option. Yeah, she mostly throws one or a couple at a time at opponents that she knows arent real threats to her. If she feels X-24 is a threat (he's not) she would up the ante some.

Slower than arrows? Lol. Prove it.

She took out an entire Asgardian army (each one more enhanced than X-24) with very few strokes being landed against her. Easily mind you. An army that X-24 has no chance in hell of beating.

You need to take the blinders off and reevaluate the scope of Helas superiority here. Your looking even more foolish than usual.

She won't make that choice though. That's not how she fights.
And how will a blade from the ground even tag x24?
Hes moving.

That was a memory. Like I said, look how she fought the Asgardian army. That's the level she is on. We can't go back thousands of years and claim she is on that same level. And she wouldn't even throw more than a blade at a time at x24. Like you said, he's not a threat.

I go by visual speed. She throws her blades at slower than arrow speeds. Many were blocking them (even Thor).

X24 only chance is to go for decapitation or severe a limb. He has a chance. She will underestimate him.

You have to understand the difference between an Asgardian and normal earth bound characters I guess before you can truly understand.

Take Loki for an example. He beat the piss out of Captain America and he's a nobody to Hela. Captain America mind you who's feats crap on Logans. Another example would be Sif when she appeared on earth in Agents Of Shield. Start watching at 5:40. She kicked a freaking camper around and she's a bottom feeder Asgardian.

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Regardless of what you believe, the physical superiority and speed of Hela compared to X-24 is astronomical.

You are a true Olympian at cerebral acrobatics H1. Absolutely mind boggling

Originally posted by tkitna
You have to understand the difference between an Asgardian and normal earth bound characters I guess before you can truly understand.

Take Loki for an example. He beat the piss out of Captain America and he's a nobody to Hela. Captain America mind you who's feats crap on Logans. Another example would be Sif when she appeared on earth in Agents Of Shield. Start watching at 5:40. She kicked a freaking camper around and she's a bottom feeder Asgardian.

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Regardless of what you believe, the physical superiority and speed of Hela compared to X-24 is astronomical.

You sound like a person who doesn't read comics.
Logan has literally beat the Hulk before. Hulk is like trillions of times stronger.

You make no sense.
X24 has a plot device (claws that can cut through nearly anything) with a HF and unbreakable skeleton.

Originally posted by h1a8
You sound like a person who doesn't read comics.
Logan has literally beat the Hulk before. Hulk is like trillions of times stronger.

You make no sense.
X24 has a plot device (claws that can cut through nearly anything) with a HF and unbreakable skeleton.

So now your changing goal posts again. You know this was a thread based on the movies that you put in the wrong place.

Regardless of that, the comic version would be even worse. She's a Hell Lord for cripes sake. Do you even have an inkling of a clue what she has done in the comics? When you have an ounce of knowledge about her, get back to me.

A movie versus thread in a comic versus forum and now the comic characters are being used…feels weird saying they’re a non factor but they are. Movie wolverine has never beaten any version of the hulk.

Originally posted by tkitna
So now your changing goal posts again. You know this was a thread based on the movies that you put in the wrong place.

Regardless of that, the comic version would be even worse. She's a Hell Lord for cripes sake. Do you even have an inkling of a clue what she has done in the comics? When you have an ounce of knowledge about her, get back to me.

But...there is no water in barren hell for Manga Hela to beat video game X-24 because bobble head Hulk is like a gazillion times stronger.

Originally posted by tkitna
So now your changing goal posts again. You know this was a thread based on the movies that you put in the wrong place.

Regardless of that, the comic version would be even worse. She's a Hell Lord for cripes sake. Do you even have an inkling of a clue what she has done in the comics? When you have an ounce of knowledge about her, get back to me.

That was a stupid argument.