Originally posted by h1a8
Strength has nothing to do with other special abilities.Strength is not the same as other special abilities.
Negatives on special attributes are always true unless proven.
No need to prove a negative for a special attribute.His physical equal has the feats so it transfers to him. They are exactly the same, atom by atom. Plus writer's intent.
You’re not the writer.
X-24 has no feats.
Thanks for playing.
Originally posted by riv6672
^^^You’re not the writer.Feats don’t transfer.
X-24 has no feats.
Thank you come again.
Your words are meaningless.
We agree to disagree.
Now go and troll another thread.
^^^my words are meaningful.
You aren’t the writer. Feats don’t transfer. X-24 has no feats.
Just because you need the truth to beat you over the head to even begin to acknowledge it doesn’t mean I’m trolling, it just means you’re slow.
But yes, let’s agree to disagree, until we repeat the exact same chain of events in another thread.
Originally posted by riv6672
^^^my words are meaningful.You aren’t the writer. Feats don’t transfer. X-24 has no feats.
Just because you need the truth to beat you over the head to even begin to acknowledge it doesn’t mean I’m trolling, it just means you’re slow.
But yes, let’s agree to disagree, until we repeat the exact same chain of events in another thread.
X-24 would have all the feats he displayed in Logan.
Which isn't enough to take down Hela, let alone take her on.
She could also if she wanted, casually flip him over on his stomach, so he can't do anything, hold him down and then likely crush his skull, like he did Mjolnir. Considering film Mjolnir has better feats than film Adamantium.
Originally posted by h1a8Feats don't transfer.His physical equal has the feats so it transfers to him. They are exactly the same, atom by atom. Plus writer's intent.
Plus we don't even know that the Phoenix event happened to the version of Wolverine in Logan, which is the one X-24 is a clone of. Logan takes place in a universe that actually has X-Men comics in it, which we've never seen before. It's also a universe where Xavier killed the X-Men prior to 2029. Seems like the jury's out on which timeline is which.
And there's no indication that writers intended X-24 to be capable of surviving Phoenix.
In other words, you're full of shit. As per.
Phoenix/Jean was holding back in that scene, as Jean was still in partial control, why Logan was only being disintegrated a little bit at a time. This was visually shown and is backed by the writers intent
If the Phoenix wanted and had been in full control, Logan would have been atomized just like the rest, save for his skeleton.
Originally posted by Robtard
Phoenix/Jean was holding back in that scene, as Jean was still in partial control, why Logan was only being disintegrated a little bit at a time. This was visually shown and is backed by the writers intentIf the Phoenix wanted and had been in full control, Logan would have been atomized just like the rest, save for his skeleton.
Correct
Originally posted by Robtard
Phoenix/Jean was holding back in that scene, as Jean was still in partial control, why Logan was only being disintegrated a little bit at a time. This was visually shown and is backed by the writers intentIf the Phoenix wanted and had been in full control, Logan would have been atomized just like the rest, save for his skeleton.
Originally posted by Smurph
Feats don't transfer.Plus we don't even know that the Phoenix event happened to the version of Wolverine in Logan, which is the one X-24 is a clone of. Logan takes place in a universe that actually has X-Men comics in it, which we've never seen before. It's also a universe where Xavier killed the X-Men prior to 2029. Seems like the jury's out on which timeline is which.
And there's no indication that writers intended X-24 to be capable of surviving Phoenix.
In other words, you're full of shit. As per.
Durability feats (not skill, etc) transfer when you have an exact duplicate (to the atom). Otherwise, I can say that steel A (the metal) feats dont transfer to other steel A.
If it's a different universe then you are correct. We can't use Logan's xmen durability feats.
Prove that Jean was holding back.
She didn't hold back on Xavier.
Logan healing factor was the reason for that.
Doesn't matter anyway if it was another universe. So I probably can't use the feat anyway.
Originally posted by h1a8
Prove that Jean was holding back.
She didn't hold back on Xavier.
Logan healing factor was the reason for that.
Watch the movie. It was clear that Jean and Phoenix were having an inner struggle. Phoenix didnt hold back on Xavier because she was clearly in charge and Jean doesnt love Xavier like she does Logan. Its pretty simple and easy to see when you actually watch the film.
Originally posted by h1a8Prove that Jean was holding back.
She didn't hold back on Xavier.
Logan healing factor was the reason for that.
Doesn't matter anyway if it was another universe. So I probably can't use the feat anyway.
The scene literally proves it, as she was capable of fully atomizing other mutants in an instant, if she had done that to Logan, he would be just a shiny skeleton. We she the Jean persona trying to gain control and holding back, it's what was shown and backed by the writer's intent.
I suggest you watch the scene and pay attention to the little details this time 👆
Originally posted by RobtardThere is no indication of Phoenix holding back. You are making stuff up (worse than speculation). You can say PIS or fiction inconsistency, (and I'll accept that) but you can't make up shit that had no indication. She atomized multiple people that she loved DEARLY. She tried to do the same with Wolverine but couldn't. This was clear by the writer's intent.
The scene literally proves it, as she was capable of fully atomizing other mutants in an instant, if she had done that to Logan, he would be just a shiny skeleton. We she the Jean persona trying to gain control and holding back, it's what was shown and backed by the writer's intent.I suggest you watch the scene and pay attention to the little details this time 👆
Anyway it's irrelevant as it may be from a different universe (why do you continue to argue a point that doesn't matter anymore?)
Wrong. There is every indication Phoenix was holding back on Logan due to the Jean persona taking partial and momentary control, because she both loves Logan and wanted to die to end her suffering. It's what was shown and backed by the writer's intent.
When she atomized Charles, it's because Phoenix had full control, the only reason Charles wasn't atomized in an instant, is because he was activley fighting back with his super-duper levels of mutant bran powers. How did you also miss this?
Originally posted by RobtardJean took partial control after the feat. Phoenix was in full control. Even so, it's clear that the writer showed Logan resistant because of his healing factor.
Wrong. There is every indication Phoenix was holding back on Logan due to the Jean persona taking partial and momentary control, because she both loves Logan and wanted to die to end her suffering. It's what was shown and backed by the writer's intent.When she atomized Charles, it's because Phoenix had full control, the only reason Charles wasn't atomized in an instant, is because he was activley fighting back with his super-duper levels of mutant bran powers. How did you also miss this?
There is 0 indication that Phoenix held back. You are now reduced to lying. Everyone who saw the movie though that Logan didn't die because of his HF, not because she was holding back. She didn't hold back on Scott either.
Saying lies as if they were true holds no water to me. You fail.
Wrong again. The fact you think Logan's healing factor can just counter Phoenix's full powers as you're suggesting is hilarious.
If she didn't hold back, every bit of flesh, bone and sinew would have been vaporized in an instant, leaving only a shiny skeleton. Though Phoenix's powers could very likely atomize adamantium as well if she went all out, considering how powerful she is.