X-24 vs Hela

Started by h1a84 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
Wrong again. The fact you think Logan's healing factor can just counter Phoenix's full powers as you're suggesting is hilarious.

If she didn't hold back, every bit of flesh, bone and sinew would have been vaporized in an instant, leaving only a shiny skeleton. Though Phoenix's powers could very likely atomize adamantium as well if she went all out, considering how powerful she is.

That's movie physics for you. According to the movie, his healing factor counters her powers. What if the writer stated his HF prevented him from being atomized? Would you tell that writer he's wrong?

Truth be told, this is a silly distraction from you as it's irrelevant, even if we say "Logan's powers countered Phoenix's disintegration powers" as fact, even thoguh less has harmed him, it doesn't matter here. Hela will not be disintegrating Logan. She will be stabbing him through with her super-magic blades and then either KOing him with a single hit or possibly crushing in his skull like she crushed Mjonlnir.

Now try to argue that she's not strong enough to KO Logan and/or can't crush adamantium even though Mjolnir has better specs 👆

Originally posted by Robtard
Truth be told, this is a silly distraction from you as it's irrelevant, even if we say "Logan's powers countered Phoenix's disintegration powers" as fact, even thoguh less has harmed him, it doesn't matter here. Hela will not be disintegrating Logan. She will be stabbing him through with her super-magic blades and then either KOing him with a single hit or possibly crushing in his skull like she crushed Mjonlnir.

Now try to argue that she's not strong enough to KO Logan and/or can't crush adamantium even though Mjolnir has better specs 👆

That's called fiction inconsistency. Writer's don't use exact science or measurements to make sure all showings are not contradictory. Supergirl casually lifts a half million ton key but later is shown struggling exerting more than 100 tons of force. Bullets easily go through Cap exactly like he's a human. But he tanks WS punches to the face. I can go on forever.

We have high showings, low showings, average showings,and PIS showings. There is no real exact consistency in fiction.

That's why the high majority of us just focus on the high showings (like you did when you said she can crush his skull because she crushed Mjolnir).

With that said, Logan has been shot by high caliber automatic rounds and didn't miss a beat. Those bullets that didn't hit his skeleton went completely through him and caused huge ass cavities. Because that's the science of bullet entry.
Hela blades will be doing less or at most equal. Hela has to ko him with punches or kicks. Blades will make her lose.

Hela will not crush his skull for a few reasons
1. He's not going to sit there and allow it. He's actively slicing at her.
2. She doesn't have the propensity to do such things (not her style).
3. Adamantium has greater specs. It cut through 6inches or more of solid steel like paper. Mjolnir has no feats showing that level of hardness and durability.

Originally posted by h1a8

2. She doesn't have the propensity to do such things (not her style).

She literally crushed the skull of an Asgardian soldier with her bare hand.

Please watch the movie before starting threads.

Originally posted by tkitna
She literally crushed the skull of an Asgardian soldier with her bare hand.

Please watch the movie before starting threads.

No she didn't. She did something funny to his helmet.
Way to ignore the other parts of the argument (i listed 3 reasons). You have to defeat ALL parts in order to feat the argument. My point about x24 slicing her hand off if she tried that still stands and adamantium being tougher than Mjolnir.

"We never saw Hela crush an orange, so she can't!"

Worst logic and debate angle. So dishonest and silly, to force a win.

Originally posted by tkitna
She literally crushed the skull of an Asgardian soldier with her bare hand.

Please watch the movie before starting threads.

😆

Originally posted by h1a8
No she didn't. She did something funny to his helmet.
Way to ignore the other parts of the argument (i listed 3 reasons). You have to defeat ALL parts in order to feat the argument. My point about x24 slicing her hand off if she tried that still stands and adamantium being tougher than Mjolnir.

Please prove that adamantium is tougher than Mjolnir.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Please prove that adamantium is tougher than Mjolnir.

It has the better feats.
I'll give one that Mjolnir can't match.
Adamantium sliced through 6 inches of solid steel as easy as a sheet of paper.

Originally posted by Robtard
"We never saw Hela crush an orange, so she can't!"

Worst logic and debate angle. So dishonest and silly, to force a win.

You have a reading comprehension problem.

Hela cant crush his skull for 3 reasons.
Adamantium has better feats.
He won't let her, he would slice off her hand before that happens.
She's will not choose that given this situation and opponent.

The 3rd reason might be weak but the first two are strong.

Wrong again.

Been said on screen that nothing can stop Mjolnir from going back to Thor's hand when called. So no, film adamantium is not superior to Mjolnir.

You say "he won't let her", like he would have much of a choice, considering she is faster, stronger, more agile and the more skilled fighter. I could just as easily say "Hela won't let X-24 cut her" and that has more logic behind it considering she fights armies and wins.

You're dictating what Hela won't do, while insisting other not dictate what Hela would do.

All three of your points are flawed and silly.

Originally posted by h1a8
No she didn't. She did something funny to his helmet.

Oh my lord. You cannot be this insane.

YouTube video

I need to point out at the 1:35 mark where Hela takes a shot from Huguns spiked flail right to the head and it does nothing. That makes me seriously doubt X-24 can even harm her. Also the many examples of multiple blades being thrown at the same time.

2:14 she crushes the guys skull with one hand. What funny thing are you referring to? Looks pretty clear to me as to what happened.

Originally posted by tkitna
Oh my lord. You cannot be this insane.

YouTube video

I need to point out at the 1:35 mark where Hela takes a shot from Huguns spiked flail right to the head and it does nothing. That makes me seriously doubt X-24 can even harm her. Also the many examples of multiple blades being thrown at the same time.

2:14 she crushes the guys skull with one hand. What funny thing are you referring to? Looks pretty clear to me as to what happened.

I already stated that stabbing her will do nothing. My argument has been that x24 can only win through decapitation or severing a limb.

Many blades for many opponents. That's her style and the way she fights.

Why mention the helmet crushing scene when already made that irrelevant?

Originally posted by h1a8

Why mention the helmet crushing scene when already made that irrelevant?

Because its not irrelevant. There is a very high probability that she can crush X-24's skull in the same fashion regardless of the adamantium. Also you stupidly said she didnt crush the guys skull, but instead did something funny to his helmet whatever that means.

Originally posted by tkitna
Because its not irrelevant. There is a very high probability that she can crush X-24's skull in the same fashion regardless of the adamantium. Also you stupidly said she didnt crush the guys skull, but instead did something funny to his helmet whatever that means.
That means you didn't read my whole post about what makes it irrelevant. You skimmed over it. Read my post throughly. If you still disagree then clearly address my SPECIFIC argument that explains why it is irrelevant.

Originally posted by h1a8
That means you didn't read my whole post about what makes it irrelevant. You skimmed over it. Read my post throughly. If you still disagree then clearly address my SPECIFIC argument that explains why it is irrelevant.

I just cant go back and read anymore of your nonsense. The majority and I know that X-24 cant win this and only you think differently. Let that sink in for a minute.

Originally posted by tkitna
I just cant go back and read anymore of your nonsense. The majority and I know that X-24 cant win this and only you think differently. Let that sink in for a minute.
Thanks for proving that you are debating from a bias standpoint.

I stated that her trying to grab x24 head is not feasible because he would slice her hand off immediately.

I also stated that adamantium has better feats than Mjolnir.

You didn't address any 9f these things

If x24 manages to slice a limb or head off then he wins

Originally posted by tkitna
Because its not irrelevant. There is a very high probability that she can crush X-24's skull in the same fashion regardless of the adamantium. Also you stupidly said she didnt crush the guys skull, but instead did something funny to his helmet whatever that means.

H1 outright lies about scenes, then when its shown, he dismisses the scene as not being relevant because it destroys his argument.

He's now implying that six inches of regular steel would stop Mjlonir. That's the type of dishonest debating/trolling he's bringing to the table.

Lmao Hela destroys Logan, Sabertooth, X-23,24 and Deadpool simultaneously with utter ease. Throw Colossus in there as well

Originally posted by Robtard
H1 outright lies about scenes, then when its shown, he dismisses the scene as not being relevant because it destroys his argument.

He's now implying that six inches of regular steel would stop Mjlonir. That's the type of dishonest debating/trolling he's bringing to the table.

It really is pointless with him. He doesnt comprehend the movies and characters and just makes things up as he goes along. Its a waste of energy and time debating with him.