GL ( Hal ) vs Savage Hulk

Started by Delta193816 pages
Originally posted by carver9
Just to get clarity on this, abhi, you're argument is, when Hulk held Thor down with one arm and Thor couldn't move, he was lying, he could move, so Hulk decided to use two arms on Thor lying ass? Is this what you're saying?

*your

No, it's you're.

Originally posted by carver9
No, it's you're.
Originally posted by carver9
Just to get clarity on this, abhi, you're argument is, when Hulk held Thor down with one arm and Thor couldn't move, he was lying, he could move, so Hulk decided to use two arms on Thor lying ass? Is this what you're saying?

"You're" meaning "you are." For example, "You're retarded, Derrick."

Your, as in possessive. Like, "Your arrogance and ineptitude amazes me, Derrick."

vin

Originally posted by carver9
So he couldn't move with one hand while trying (because he would need to try in order to find out he couldn't move, lmmfao), so Hulk used two hands on Thor because Thor was unsuccessful with one hand but needed two hands on an unsuccessful Thor? You're by far the most intelligent guy I've debated with.

Its like people can increase the level of force they're trying to use.

Like Thor was holding back, novel concept, isn't it?

Originally posted by Test123
What makes it supernova level? If it looks like one?

And stated as one, yeah.

When was Hal's explosion shaking a dimension? Is Thor's feat on a supernova level scale considering his attacks and battles have shook the nine realms before?

Considering nine realms are pocket dimension, I don't think so.

Also, Iron Man isn't literally firing suns from his armour, that's just what the power is being compared to, to exploding suns.


So he's firing energy equivalent to suns, right? Must be very tiny suns if 3000 nukes could destroy it.

Doom could use his armour to absorb tons of energy from people, but still get his armour crushed by much weaker foes.

Except the celestial armor isn't absorbing suns, it's firing them. You're not very bright it seems.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And stated as one, yeah.

Considering nine realms are pocket dimension, I don't think so.
So he's firing energy equivalent to suns, right? Must be very tiny suns if 3000 nukes could destroy it.

Except the celestial armor isn't absorbing suns, it's firing them. You're not very bright it seems.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And stated as one, yeah.

Considering nine realms are pocket dimension, I don't think so.
So he's firing energy equivalent to suns, right? Must be very tiny suns if 3000 nukes could destroy it.

Except the celestial armor isn't absorbing suns, it's firing them. You're not very bright it seems.

So what's the criteria? Statement, visuals, or just one of them?

The nine realms vary in their defintions, sometimes they're universes, but either way when was Hal's explosion said to shake a dimension?

This argument of tiny suns doesn't make sense either, because you're conflating durabiliy with AP. You brought up a suit storing energy and firing it, I said Doom's suit does the same thing, stores energy and also fires it. That doesn't make his armour super durable, besides it was already being broken apart by Hulk before the gamma explosion.

It's also not firing actual suns, it's the celestial judgement of a hundred thousand exploding stars, by that logic Hal isn't creating a supernova because no sun is present, or being blown up.

You must not be very bright if you can't comprehend the idea of a glass cannon.

Originally posted by Test123

This argument of tiny suns doesn't make sense either, because you're conflating durabiliy with AP.

Did you mean EP, as in energy projection?

Originally posted by Test123
So what's the criteria? Statement, visuals, or just one of them?

Both of them. Usually art is better than words.

The nine realms vary in their defintions, sometimes they're universes, but either way when was Hal's explosion said to shake a dimension?

No, they don't. Not the explosion, simply making his ring shook an entire universe.

Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]Going by comicvine logic, Hal shook an infinite universe by just forging his ring.

https://imgur.io/a/1yYEx22

Emotional spectrum is an infinite Web of planets and realms.

https://imgur.com/a/b1CqMjs

The DC Book: A Vast and Vibrant Multiverse Simply Explained

This argument of tiny suns doesn't make sense either, because you're conflating durabiliy with AP. You brought up a suit storing energy and firing it, I said Doom's suit does the same thing, stores energy and also fires it. That doesn't make his armour super durable, besides it was already being broken apart by Hulk before the gamma explosion.

Doom doesn't fire suns and then breaks apart from nukes.

That literally makes no sense, an armor that can store energy of suns can't break by nukes.

It's also not firing actual suns, it's the celestial judgement of a hundred thousand exploding stars, by that logic Hal isn't creating a supernova because no sun is present, or being blown up.

Celestial judgement must be pretty weak to be overpowered by 3000 nukes. Even the celestial hand (the arena was a hand of celestial) tanks it and we know megatons can pierce celestial armor.

You must not be very bright if you can't comprehend the idea of a glass cannon. [/B]

There's literally no implications of the suit being a glass cannon. You're simply ingesting copium.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its like people can increase the level of force they're trying to use.

Like Thor was holding back, novel concept, isn't it?

That's not what happened. He just couldn't move. Deal with it and move on. Crazy thing is, during that instance, Hulknwas smiling. Cry.

Originally posted by Delta1938
"You're" meaning "you are." For example, "You're retarded, Derrick."

Your, as in possessive. Like, "Your arrogance and ineptitude amazes me, Derrick."

vin


Sometimes, I feel the kids in elementary schools can understand English better than Carver

Originally posted by carver9
That's not what happened. He just couldn't move. Deal with it and move on. Crazy thing is, during that instance, Hulknwas smiling. Cry.

😂

You're an idiot.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Sometimes, I feel the kids in elementary schools can understand English better than Carver

Even that comparison is insulting to elementary school children learning English.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Both of them. Usually art is better than words.

No, they don't. Not the explosion, simply making his ring shook an entire universe.

Doom doesn't fire suns and then breaks apart from nukes.

That literally makes no sense, an armor that can store energy of suns can't break by nukes.

Celestial judgement must be pretty weak to be overpowered by 3000 nukes. Even the celestial hand (the arena was a hand of celestial) tanks it and we know megatons can pierce celestial armor.

There's literally no implications of the suit being a glass cannon. You're simply ingesting copium.

By that logic Superman, Kyle, and Hal must be pretty weak considering they've struggled with or even been knocked out by one nuke. I guess Kyle must've contained a tiny supernova if he gets overwhelmed by one nuke. The Celestial armour doesn't fire suns either, not sure why you keep bringing the up, it's the power that's compared to 100k exploding suns.

What does "pocket dimension" even mean? Have they ever been measured?

Because the Time Trapper created a "Pocket Universe", but the narrative was very explicit in saying it was the size of an ENTIRE universe. What distinguished it from the main universe wasn't the size, but the fact Time Trapper pruned out entire star systems. Ergo, it has less in it, but maintained the same volume.

A pocket dimension could be any size, the word "pocket" is meaningless without context.

The problem with the feat is not just it is most likely hyperbole and figurative talk

But

Hulk was getting holes blown through him. I can argue the attack bypassed Hulk's durability (leaving holes) in the exact areas where he was hit. This makes sense because we know Hulk's durability isn't astronomically weaker in spots on his body (where the holes were). Therefore it's a non feat.

Originally posted by cdtm
What does "pocket dimension" even mean? Have they ever been measured?

Because the Time Trapper created a "Pocket Universe", but the narrative was very explicit in saying it was [b]the size of an ENTIRE universe. What distinguished it from the main universe wasn't the size, but the fact Time Trapper pruned out entire star systems. Ergo, it has less in it, but maintained the same volume.

A pocket dimension could be any size, the word "pocket" is meaningless without context. [/B]

IIRC, he recreated the universe then manipulated it to just have Krypton and Earth, at least for inhabited planets.

Originally posted by h1a8
The problem with the feat is not just it is most likely hyperbole and figurative talk

But

Hulk was getting holes blown through him. I can argue the attack bypassed Hulk's durability (leaving holes) in the exact areas where he was hit. This makes sense because we know Hulk's durability isn't astronomically weaker in spots on his body (where the holes were). Therefore it's a non feat.

H1, shut up. Your statement doesn't even make sense. Him standing after being hit by an attack similar to 100k suns exploding is an insane ft.

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

You're an idiot.

Concession accepted.

Originally posted by Delta1938
IIRC, he recreated the universe then manipulated it to just have Krypton and Earth, at least for inhabited planets.

Yep

Time Trapper sliced a sliver of time, but even in that unmeasurable time, it still contained an entire universe and all the planets and stars of a whole universe would have
He/It later removed all the worlds except Krypton and Earth in his/its universe
https://ibb.co/rZ9Kyxq
https://ibb.co/rMRhFs8

Originally posted by h1a8
The problem with the feat is not just it is most likely hyperbole and figurative talk

But

Hulk was getting holes blown through him. I can argue the attack bypassed Hulk's durability (leaving holes) in the exact areas where he was hit. This makes sense because we know Hulk's durability isn't astronomically weaker in spots on his body (where the holes were). Therefore it's a non feat.

The feat is him continuing to fight despite being hit with the attack, and not being KO'd either.