GL ( Hal ) vs Savage Hulk

Started by qwertyuiop199816 pages

Originally posted by carver9
Also, yes, Thor possessed powers

That's all you need to say TBH. The rest of your post is just red herring at best

So, if gamma powers can make Banner...a normal human, skyrocket to one of the strongest characters in Marvel Universe. Then, imagine how much it can do to Thor, a guy who has strength far beyond normal humans

Originally posted by abhilegend
He's literally using both hands to choke thor out lol.

You're retarded.

First and second panel when Thor said he's trying, it's literally one arm. He flips Thor around and start choking him with 2 arms. Just pull up with scan and look at the scene, ABHI.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
That's all you need to say TBH. The rest of your post is just red herring at best

So, if gamma powers can make Banner...a normal human, skyrocket to one of the strongest characters in Marvel Universe. Then, imagine how much it can do to Thor, a guy who has strength far beyond normal humans

Banner body can not be compared this way about Gamma. We've seen Thor absorb gamma in the past, Spiderman, Wolverine, all of these beings became Hulks and they were still below Hulk during that time. You doing math like this when Banner body is literally the key/source for all gamma is just inaccurate.

Gamma Spiderman and Gamma Thor by the way...

https://ibb.co/HPkHffk

Originally posted by carver9
First and second panel when Thor said he's trying, it's literally one arm. He flips Thor around and start choking him with 2 arms. Just pull up with scan and look at the scene, ABHI.

Why would he use two arms if one arm is all that requires you retard?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why would he use two arms if one arm is all that requires you retard?

When Thor admitted he couldn't move, Hulk was using one arm. When he flipped him around, he started choking him like every other person would, with two arms...

😂

I did a quick Google search of choking someone and every single person used 2 arms. You're a clown, abhi, lmmfao.

Just to get clarity on this, abhi, you're argument is, when Hulk held Thor down with one arm and Thor couldn't move, he was lying, he could move, so Hulk decided to use two arms on Thor lying ass? Is this what you're saying?

Originally posted by carver9
Banner body can not be compared this way about Gamma. We've seen Thor absorb gamma in the past, Spiderman, Wolverine, all of these beings became Hulks and they were still below Hulk during that time. You doing math like this when Banner body is literally the key/source for all gamma is just inaccurate.

Gamma Spiderman and Gamma Thor by the way...

https://ibb.co/HPkHffk


Fortunately, gamma wasn't the only power Thor possessed during that time

Again, you're still missing the entire point

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998

So to recap:
The Uatu's universe statement(which is never directly referred to Hulk's powers) is after Hulk already gained Mjolnir. and Hulk was physically being killed by Gamma Thor previously
Thor later had a directly statement saying he was going to end the reality, and was overpowering Hulk with Mjolnir before that

So basically, you really can't transfer the statement to Hulk's powers in any way. for 1) Hulk had Mjolnir 2) Hulk was fighting a superior of his, whom directly stated capable of destroying the reality and the statement never made clear how the universe was threatened(again, for all we know, it could be referring to Gamma Thor's powers)


Or to put it simpler. Hulk had outside help(the hammer) and the statement is ambiguous. The statement is as useful as every post you made about Hulk

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Fortunately, gamma wasn't the only power Thor possessed during that time

Again, you're still missing the entire point

Or to put it simpler. Hulk had outside help(the hammer) and the statement is ambiguous. The statement is as useful as every post you made about Hulk

He had his hammer as well and going by that, he should've been >>>>>> Banner based off your analogy but he wasn't.

Originally posted by carver9
He had his hammer as well and going by that, he should've been >>>>>> Banner based of your analogy but he wasn't.

Where Gamma Thor had his hammer when he was fighting and overpowering Hulk?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Where Gamma Thor had his hammer when he was fighting and overpowering Hulk?

I'm talking about the Hulk in the scan I posted. He was empowered by gamma AND he had his hammer but he still wasn't more powerful than Banner Hulk. Your argument is, since Thor had powers before turning into a mindless Hulk, he is > Hulk due to Banner being a human that was gifted with gamma radiation. I'm showing you that a gamma powered, Mjlonir wielding Thor wasn't>Hulk which goes completely against your argument.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
That's all you need to say TBH. The rest of your post is just red herring at best

So, if gamma powers can make Banner...a normal human, skyrocket to one of the strongest characters in Marvel Universe. Then, imagine how much it can do to Thor, a guy who has strength far beyond normal humans

This post.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm talking about the Hulk in the scan I posted. He was empowered by gamma AND he had his hammer but he still wasn't more powerful than Banner Hulk. Your argument is, since Thor had powers before turning into a mindless Hulk, he is > Hulk due to Banner being a human that was gifted with gamma radiation. I'm showing you that a gamma powered, Mjlonir wielding Thor wasn't>Hulk which goes completely against your argument.

No, you're very wrong in understanding my argument(and basically everything else)

The point is Hulk had outside help, and he was being beaten shit physically by Gamma Thor, who you can't transfer it to Hulk, since aside the gamma powers, he still possesses superpowers before that.
In the very comics you cited about their "universe destroying fight" statement and attempted to tranfer it to Hulk

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
No, you're very wrong in understanding my argument(and basically everything else)

The point is Hulk had outside help, and he was being beaten shit physically by Gamma Thor, who you can't transfer it to Hulk, since aside the gamma powers, he still possesses superpowers before that.
In the very comics you cited about their "universe destroying fight" statement and attempted to tranfer it to Hulk

I never said Hulk is the ONLY one mentioned for that ft and nope, I'm not wrong. You literally compared Hulk being a human getting gamma energy up, to Thor being a God and getting gamma juiced, saying that it should make Thor>Hulk when that isn't the case. That is the reason I posted Spiderman, Thor, and mentioned Wolverine being gammaed up but still falling behind Hulk during that time in power. I'm glad I convinced you otherwise.

Back to Hulk vs Thor. I literally posted Odin and Banner confirming they contained Hulk rage during his fight against Thor. Ya know, the same rage that makes Hulk more powerful. Banner did that so that Titan wouldn't show.

Originally posted by carver9
I never said Hulk is the ONLY one mentioned for that ft and nope, I'm not wrong. You literally compared Hulk being a human getting gamma energy up, to Thor being a God and getting gamma juiced, saying that it should make Thor>Hulk when that isn't the case. That is the reason I posted Spiderman, Thor, and mentioned Wolverine being gammaed up but still falling behind Hulk during that time in power. I'm glad I convinced you otherwise.

Back to Hulk vs Thor. I literally posted Odin and Banner confirming they contained Hulk rage during his fight against Thor. Ya know, the same rage that makes Hulk more powerful. Banner did that so that Titan wouldn't show.


So we agree it's unusable for a feat of Hulk in any metric, right? 🙂

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So we agree it's unusable for a feat of Hulk in any metric, right? 🙂

Just half. 😃

We don't need to talk about this any further. Especially since you think Banner being human means he has less power as any other gamma powered being above human level. Seeing that is all I needed to read.

Originally posted by carver9
Just half. 😃

We don't need to talk about this abg further. Especially since you think Banner being human means he has less power as any other gamma powered being above human level. Seeing that is all I needed to read.


Well, yeah, we don't really need to talk about this further. Because you're failing to understand the basic points and strawmanning

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
That's all you need to say TBH. The rest of your post is just red herring at best

So, if gamma powers can make Banner...a normal human, skyrocket to one of the strongest characters in Marvel Universe. Then, imagine how much it can do to Thor, a guy who has strength far beyond normal humans

"So if gamma powers can make Banner... a normal human, skyrocket to one of the strongest characters in Marvel Universe. Then, imagine how much it can do to Thor, a guy who has strength far beyond normal humans".

This statement seems pretty clear. Glad we are done with this.

Originally posted by carver9
When Thor admitted he couldn't move, Hulk was using one arm. When he flipped him around, he started choking him like every other person would, with two arms...

😂

I did a quick Google search of choking someone and every single person used 2 arms. You're a clown, abhi, lmmfao.

Originally posted by carver9
Just to get clarity on this, abhi, you're argument is, when Hulk held Thor down with one arm and Thor couldn't move, he was lying, he could move, so Hulk decided to use two arms on Thor lying ass? Is this what you're saying?

Its like Thor was trying and that made hulk use two hands to stop him.

Its like you don't even know how a fight works lmao

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its like Thor was trying and that made hulk use two hands to stop him.

Its like you don't even know how a fight works lmao

So he couldn't move with one hand while trying (because he would need to try in order to find out he couldn't move, lmmfao), so Hulk used two hands on Thor because Thor was unsuccessful with one hand but needed two hands on an unsuccessful Thor? You're by far the most intelligent guy I've debated with.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its a supernova level explosion, not literally a star exploding. Hal didn't create a star and then exploded it.

What a nonsensical claim. If humans can create an explosion so powerful it shakes an entire dimension, do let me know.

Again weird analogy, Doom doesn't fire suns from his armor.

You want to have your cake and eat it too, it doesn't work that way.

What makes it supernova level? If it looks like one?

When was Hal's explosion shaking a dimension? Is Thor's feat on a supernova level scale considering his attacks and battles have shook the nine realms before?

Also, Iron Man isn't literally firing suns from his armour, that's just what the power is being compared to, to exploding suns. Doom could use his armour to absorb tons of energy from people, but still get his armour crushed by much weaker foes.