Originally posted by Kazenji
The only people that i've complaining about this movie online is, Why didn't they get a French actor to play Napoleonugh, that's the whole point of acting...some people out there miss the point of acting these days.
It’s ****ing acting, dumbasses.
^^^Oh I’ve made that argument myself to the “only a [insert ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation/self identification] actor can play a [insert ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation/self identification] character” crowd.
Well in regards to that its sorta valid, Like if the character is Asian so cast a Asian for the role instead of going with the whitewashing route.
^^^And those same people are the ones wanting to make Danny Rand Asian, which defeats the entire purpose and premise of the character.
So yes, they’re ****ing dumbasses.
EDIT
I’m not looking to derail this short French guy thread so thank you for the reply let’s agree to disagree and whatnot, and let this be our Waterloo.
Nice 2-minute clip...
Originally posted by RobtardI don't know what your beef with Carthage is Cato the Elder, but Dune, as a story, is largely charmless garbage that gets wanked in science fiction stories because it looks good when treading water in a sea of brainless schlock but does not hold up well compared to better literature. 👆
Carthage's a moron, but he's not wrong regarding Dune being good.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I don't know what your beef with Carthage is Cato the Elder, but Dune, as a story, is largely charmless garbage that gets wanked in science fiction stories because it looks good when treading water in a sea of brainless schlock but does not hold up well compared to better literature. 👆
Originally posted by NemeBro
I don't know what your beef with Carthage is Cato the Elder, but Dune, as a story, is largely charmless garbage that gets wanked in science fiction stories because it looks good when treading water in a sea of brainless schlock but does not hold up well compared to better literature. 👆
I really enjoyed the book (only read the 1st), David Lynch's film is still a childhood favorite of mine even though it took many liberties and I enjoyed Dune part 1.
Of course there is better literature, eg I felt more despair and emotions reading The Road by Cormac McCarthy. But is it fair to compare Dune against non-science fiction and vice-versa?
Originally posted by RobtardI'm not comparing Dune to Cormac McCarthy. I am saying, right here and now, that there is much better speculative fiction out there that touches on heavy ideas with more grace than Dune and while actually having something resembling charm or charisma.
I really enjoyed the book (only read the 1st), David Lynch's film is still a childhood favorite of mine even though it took many liberties and I enjoyed Dune part 1.Of course there is better literature, eg I felt more despair and emotions reading The Road by Cormac McCarthy. But is it fair to compare Dune against non-science fiction and vice-versa?
Dune is as dry as a ****ing towel rack and filled with two-dimensional characters written in stilted amateurish prose. The better 40k novels genuinely are written with more skill than Dune is.
But the one thing Dune has is setting. The setting of Dune and Arrakis are extremely cool. And because science fiction and fantasy nerds are excessively detail-minded they loooooove that world-building shit and will forgive almost anything if the world is cool (which isn't to say Dune's setting is especially well-constructed or thought out: for such a big setting it comes across as weirdly small and a lot of the details that give the setting its fairly unique flavor are just treated matter-of-factedly without much in the way of self-analysis).
PL thinks I'm trolling but no: when I shit on Tool to him I'm trolling. I am saying right here right now that Dune is probably the worst novel that I've finished in the past year and a half.
The Hobbit also sucks by the way don't @ me (Lord of the Rings and The Silmarillion are cool though).
Originally posted by NemeBro
I'm not comparing Dune to Cormac McCarthy. I am saying, right here and now, that there is much better speculative fiction out there that touches on heavy ideas with more grace than Dune and while actually having something resembling charm or charisma.Dune is as dry as a ****ing towel rack and filled with two-dimensional characters written in stilted amateurish prose. The better 40k novels genuinely are written with more skill than Dune is.
But the one thing Dune has is setting. The setting of Dune and Arrakis are extremely cool. And because science fiction and fantasy nerds are excessively detail-minded they loooooove that world-building shit and will forgive almost anything if the world is cool (which isn't to say Dune's setting is especially well-constructed or thought out: for such a big setting it comes across as weirdly small and a lot of the details that give the setting its fairly unique flavor are just treated matter-of-factedly without much in the way of self-analysis).
PL thinks I'm trolling but no: when I shit on Tool to him I'm trolling. I am saying right here right now that Dune is probably the worst novel that I've finished in the past year and a half.
The Hobbit also sucks by the way don't @ me (Lord of the Rings and The Silmarillion are cool though).
That is the worst criticism I've ever heard of Dune.
I've read a shit-ton of WH40K novels (thanks again for the initial recommends), while there are many that are good and outright fun reads, I can't say they're downright better scifi than Dune was.
Which scifi books/works specifically are you thinking about when saying "much better speculative fiction out there that touches on heavy ideas with more grace than Dune"?
Lol...
I'm amazed that Ridley is still making such insanely huge films well into his 80s, but some of these responses strike me as a bit odd. Not sure if that article says it or not, but I heard him respond to historians by saying, "Were you there? How do you know?"
*facepalm*
That's cringe AF.
That's not really the point, Kaz.
The point is that if historians contest something, then they probably have good reasons to. It's a surprisingly childish response from an 80 something year old man. If you took some liberties with history, fine... just own it. They certainly did with Gladiator, but it's still beloved.